Mr. Kriss.

Right.

Mr. Hubert.

And you saw a blur?

Mr. Kriss.

Yes.

Mr. Hubert.

Did you recognize the man at all?

Mr. Kriss.

Right then? No.

Mr. Hubert.

Had you known Ruby ?

Mr. Kriss.

Known, of him, saw him before in the papers and everything.

Mr. Hubert.

What did you do after that?

Mr. Kriss.

Well, they said--somebody said, "Don't let anyone out of the basement." And I ran across here and I thought I saw one of the captains, Arnett, and I saw him going down, and he was in the confusion and in that confusion here, and ran over there and saw that everything was all right, and they said, "Don't let anyone out."

Mr. Hubert.

And you positioned yourself right in the middle?

Mr. Kriss.

Positioned myself in the middle and no one passed thereafter. That I can assure you of. That is the only thing I do know for sure.

Mr. Hubert.

All right. Let me see if there's anything else. All right. Is there anything else you would like to add that is not contained in the statement, or in your testimony today ?

Mr. Kriss.

No, sir; I just don't know a thing.

Mr. Hubert.

All right for now. Have you ever been interviewed by any member of the Commission's staff prior to today?

Mr. Kriss.

No; only the FBI is all.

Mr. Hubert.

And you have never been interviewed by me prior to this deposition today ?

Mr. Kriss.

No.

Mr. Hubert.

All right, sir. I think that is all and I certainly thank you very much.

Roy Lee Lowery

Testimony of Roy Lowery Lee

The testimony of Roy Lee Lowery was taken at 11 a.m., on March 25, 1964, in the office of the U.S. attorney, 301 Post Office Building, Bryan and Ervay Streets, Dallas, Tex., by Mr. Leon D. Hubert, Jr., assistant counsel of the President's Commission.

Mr. Hubert.

This is the deposition of Detective R. L. Lowery, Dallas Police Department. Mr. Lowery, my name is Leon D. Hubert. I am a member of the advisory staff of the general counsel of the President's Commission on the Assassination of President Kennedy. Under the provisions of the Executive Order No. 11130, dated November 29, 1963, a joint resolution of Congress No. 137, and the rules of procedure adopted by the Commission in conformance with the Executive order in the joint resolution, I have been authorized to take the sworn deposition from you, Mr. Lowery. I state to you now that the general nature of the Commission's inquiry is to ascertain, evaluate and report upon the facts relating to the assassination of President Kennedy and the subsequent violent death of Lee Harvey Oswald. In particular, Mr. Lowery, the nature of the inquiry today is to determine what facts you know about the death of Oswald and any other pertinent facts you may know about the death and the general inquiry.
Now, Mr. Lowery, you have appeared here today by virtue of a request made to Chief Curry by Mr. J. Lee Rankin, who is the general counsel on the staff of the President's Commission. Under the rules adopted by the Commission, you are entitled to a 3-day written notice by the Commission prior to the taking of this deposition, but the rules adopted by the Commission also provide that a witness may waive that 3-day notice if he wishes to do so. Do you wish to waive the 3-day notice?

Mr. LOWERY. I will waive

Mr. Hubert.

Will you raise your right hand. Do you solemnly swear to tell the truth, the whole truth, and nothing but the truth, so help you God?