Mr. Holly.

No. I tried to go through the photographs of who I thought it was. I never have learned if it was him.

Mr. Hubert.

You did pick out a person ?

Mr. Holly.

Yes.

Mr. Hubert.

Do you know the name of the man you picked out?

Mr. Holly.

No. Captain Solomon mentioned his name, but I don't recall it.

Mr. Hubert.

Does the name Newman refresh your memory?

Mr. Holly.

Newman ? It's been so long ago, I wouldn't say.

Mr. Hubert.

Was there any doubt about your identification?

Mr. Holly.

Well, other than I described the man to him, and, of course, I went over the photographs with Captain Solomon on Sunday.

Mr. Hubert.

A week later?

Mr. Holly.

On that following Sunday after the date. No; it was a week later, I beg your pardon. It was a week later, and I met him up there Sunday, and we went over the photographs with men in their uniforms, and the boy I picked out, Captain Solomon said, "Well, that is one of the men that is down in the basement," and that is the only one I could think it could have been.
And he contacted the man and the man was hunting at that time, and I never did hear of any more of it.

Mr. Hubert.

Well, what I mean is, the man you did pick out, is there any doubt in your mind that you picked out the man you spoke to at the hospital who told you he had seen Ruby?

Mr. Holly.

There is a little doubt there, yes. I wouldn't be too positive of it. But I feel--

Mr. Hubert.

Have you seen this man since?

Mr. Holly.

No; I haven't seen him since. I didn't know him and never had seen him before that. But I am pretty positive I picked out the right man, the one that I did see and talk to.

Mr. Hubert.

Let me see if I can get you straight. You say that you are pretty positive that you did pick out the right man, but a little while before you said that you weren't quite sure? There is a little difference between the two?

Mr. Holly.

I Went over several photographs with Captain Solomon and he is the only one that resembles him.
The photographs he showed me were old photographs, so there was a little doubt there, and that is the only part I can be doubted on. I think he said the photographs he showed me were maybe 3 years old.

Mr. Hubert.

But he didn't get the man and confront you with him?

Mr. Holly.

No.

Mr. Hubert.

Was this man that you saw a youngish man or middle age or what?

Mr. Holly.

I would say he was in his thirties, about 37 years old or 36 years old.

Mr. Hubert.

Was he a little husky?

Mr. Holly.

He was about 165 or 170, about 5'8" or 9", and blue eyes and bald headed.

Mr. Hubert.

He had on a cap?

Mr. Holly.

Had a cap on, and didn't wear any glasses.

Mr. Hubert.

He had on a hat?

Mr. Holly.

Had a cap on, and didn't wear any glasses.

Mr. Hubert.

So, the way I see it, among those pictures that Captain Solomon showed you, you picked out the man you thought was the man ?

Mr. Holly.

I still think it was the same man that Captain Solomon--he didn't tell me prior, but after I picked him out, he said that is the only man it could have been, because he was down in the basement, and the way I described it, it fitted the description I had given. He did explain after it was over that the photographs were about 3 years old.

Mr. Hubert.

Now, I think that you passed on the information that this reserve officer had given you to someone, did you not?

Mr. Holly.

How was that?

Mr. Hubert.

You reported to someone that a reserve officer had told you ?

Mr. Holly.

Yes; I did.

Mr. Hubert.

Who did you report it to?

Mr. Hubert.

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