Mr. Griffin.

Where was Captain Arnett? Put an "A" where you think he was and then put a circle around that.

Mr. Harrison.

He was in that general area somewhere.

Mr. Griffin.

At the time that Oswald walked out?

Mr. Harrison.

Yes; I believe he was. I am not

Mr. Griffin.

Do you remember seeing him there about that time?

Mr. Harrison.

I remember seeing the uniform there, and he was the captain who was in the uniform down there.

Mr. Griffin.

Now, do you remember seeing these people over here at that time?

Mr. Harrison.

They were yes; they were there. There were, I believe, two people right in here and there were the cameramen behind the rail.

Mr. Griffin.

Blackie, do you remember this from actual memory of what happened or do you remember this from having seen the photographs, the films?

Mr. Harrison.

Well, I remember these people on my left here and the ones here on my right. I remember this man with a microphone. very distinctly because, when they brought him out, these fellows back here hollered for me to move the line back, which I did.

Mr. Griffin.

Now, do you remember if there were any people directly behind you ?

Mr. Harrison.

No; not that I recall. I remember I spread my arms out and backed the group up where these cameras could get a clear shot of him coming out.

Mr. Griffin.

Now, is it fair to say that, if there had been people in back of you, you would have either known it because you were looking around there or because you would have wanted to have cleared them out or would have been worried about it or anything like that?

Mr. Harrison.

Well, I wouldn't necessarily have seen them, because I was watching this line across here to keep them from going forward into the path of this--of where Oswald was coming out.

Mr. Griffin.

Now, at any time after Rio Pierce's car went up that ramp, did you look in the direction of the ramp?

Mr. Harrison.

Not that I recall; no.

Mr. Griffin.

Did you see any other officers look in the direction of the ramp during that period?

Mr. Harrison.

No, sir.

Mr. Griffin.

Now, while you were over here, as Rio Pierce's car drove out, were other officers lined up along

Mr. Harrison.

Yes, sir.

Mr. Griffin.

The other wall ?

Mr. Harrison.

Yes, sir.

Mr. Griffin.

And, to your knowledge, were any of them looking out in this direction toward the Main Street ramp?

Mr. Harrison.

I didn't notice any of them looking out that way. They could have been. There was--I know. when they brought Oswald out, Lowery was standing right here on the on this corner.

Mr. Griffin.

Will you put a mark, put an "L," there where Lowery was? Did you at any time, now, did you see Jack Ruby in this basement at any time before he shot Oswald ?

Mr. Harrison.

Not before he shot Oswald.

Mr. Griffin.

When you were standing here, did you feel a man pressing up against your back ?

Mr. Harrison.

No; I didn't.

Mr. Griffin.

Of course, you have seen the photographs, haven't you ?

Mr. Harrison.

Yes, sir.

Mr. Griffin.

And you saw where Jack came from ?

Mr. Harrison.

Yes, sir.

Mr. Griffin.

Was there anybody that you know of that saw Ruby there?

Mr. Harrison.

Not that I know of.

Mr. Griffin.

Have you talked to anybody that indicated to you that he saw Ruby there?