Mr. Cutchshaw.

those, and one on the other side of the desk checking those coming from the Main Street, and I was on Commerce Street.

Mr. Griffin.

Did you tell any of the people up there what you had seen ?

Mr. Cutchshaw.

No; not that I can remember. You mean what I saw down in the basement?

Mr. Griffin.

Yes; about your suspicion about those guys pushing the camera.

Mr. Cutchshaw.

No.

Mr. Griffin.

Now, were you taken off that duty by anybody?

Mr. Cutchshaw.

Yes. Lieutenant came down find told us it was all right to secure, that everything was settled down, and that is when I left and went up to the homicide office and wrote my report.

Mr. Griffin.

When did you get the instructions to write a report on this?

Mr. Cutchshaw.

Down in the basement.

Mr. Griffin.

Before you got stationed?

Mr. Cutchshaw.

Before I had to go upstairs: yes.

Mr. Griffin.

Now, at the time Captain Jones gave you those instructions down there, had the basement sort of quieted down ?

Mr. Cutchshaw.

Yes.

Mr. Griffin.

Did he give instructions to a bunch of you standing in a group, or were you all spread out, or how did it happen ?

Mr. Cutchshaw.

I think there were two or three of us there, and I asked about it, and told him, and he said, "The information is good," but he said, "Put it down in writing so you will be able to refer to it later."

Mr. Griffin.

Who else was there at the time?

Mr. Cutchshaw.

I don't remember who all was there.

Mr. Griffin.

So, now, on the basis of what you told us, what would be your best estimate of how long it was after you saw this cameraman come through that you wrote this report? And when I say on the basis of what you said, I don't mean that I want you to conform to anything you have said, but taking into account all the discussion we have had now, what is your best judgment as to how long it was?

Mr. Cutchshaw.

About an hour and a half or 2 hours.

Mr. Griffin.

Now, when you took the names of the two men you found at the camera-

Mr. Cutchshaw.

I didn't take the names.

Mr. Griffin.

Lowery took those names?

Mr. Cutchshaw.

Yes.

Mr. Griffin.

How were those two men dressed?

Mr. Cutchshaw.

One of them had on a long black coat. One of these kind of, like a raincoat--topcoat combination deal, and the other one, best I can remember, had on a greenish shirt and khaki trousers.

Mr. Griffin.

Where had those two men, as you recall, where had they been on the camera as it was being pushed through?

Mr. Cutchshaw.

You mean where? How were they positioned there?

Mr. Griffin.

Where was the man in the black coat?

Mr. Cutchshaw.

The man in the black coat was on the left side of the camera, and the other one was on the right.

Mr. Griffin.

There was one man in between ?

Mr. Cutchshaw.

As far as I can remember, yes.

Mr. Griffin.

Did you discuss that man with those people. that you and Lowery confronted?

Mr. Cutchshaw.

You mean the two men at the camera?

Mr. Griffin.

Yes.

Mr. Cutchshaw.

Yes.

Mr. Griffin.

Did you ask them where the third man was

Mr. Cutchshaw.

I asked them where the third man was who had helped them with the camera, and they told me they didn't know there was any third man there.

Mr. Griffin.

Did you ask those men where that camera had been before it came through the double doors?

Mr. Cutchshaw.

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