Mr. Griffin.

Let me ask you this: I notice you pulled out a set of papers from your pocket. You have a copy of the actual report you prepared?

Mr. Cutchshaw.

Yes; I have a copy which is one of the Xerox copies of the report which I wrote.

Mr. Griffin.

Would you mind if we made a photocopy of that? And retain it for our files?

Mr. Cutchshaw.

No, sir; I don't. In fact, it looks like--that is my hand-written copy. I don't know whether you can read it or not.
Mr. GRIFFIN. Now, I think I can make out your handwriting here. I am referring now to the copy of the handwritten report which Detective Crenshaw prepared on November 24, 1963, in the homicide bureau office. Approximately how long after Ruby shot Oswald?

Mr. Cutchshaw.

About 20 minutes.

Mr. Griffin.

Could it have been longer than that?

Mr. Cutchshaw.

It could have been longer, but it was approximately 20 minutes.

Mr. Griffin.

Could it have been as long as 2 hours later ?

Mr. Cutchshaw.

I think it was that long. It might have been the way things were, but I remember when I left the basement, I did go upstairs, and I did go to the homicide office and that is where I wrote the report.

Mr. Griffin.

Did you go up to homicide because somebody in the basement told you to go up and write a report on what you saw?

Mr. Cutchshaw.

Right.

Mr. Griffin.

Who was that?

Mr. Cutchshaw.

Captain Jones. I know he told me.

Mr. Griffin.

All right.

Mr. Cutchshaw.

And there was a standing order to put it down in writing what you saw and what you did.

Mr. Griffin.

Was this after everything had been quieted down in the basement ?

Mr. Cutchshaw.

Yes; well, now, I am losing track of my time again.

Mr. Griffin.

It is important that we try to straighten this out.

Mr. Cutchshaw.

Let's see. I will have to retract some of them. I don't want to state it that way. But so far as what I have said, it is true, but as far as my time element is concerned, when I left, I had to go up to the first floor, and I kept seeing people coming in and out.
We have three entrances. The Harwood, Main and Commerce, and I think there was four of us which were taking names of people coming in and leaving, and checking their identification.

Mr. Griffin.

Which entrance was it you were at?

Mr. Cutchshaw.

I was checking the Commerce side. I was inside the building close to the information desk, but checking those coming in and leaving the Commerce Street entrance to the building. So it might have been about 2 hours after, because I know I was down there for quite awhile.

Mr. Griffin.

When you were at the Commerce Street side, were you at the door going out of the building?

Mr. Cutchshaw.

No; I was in the hallway close to the entrance of the hallway.

Mr. Griffin.

As you said before, closer to the information desk?

Mr. Cutchshaw.

Closer to the information where the hallway is in front of the desk.

Mr. Griffin.

That is on the first floor and not in the basement?

Mr. Cutchshaw.

Right. It is on the first floor.

Mr. Griffin.

Do you recall who was up there with you taking names?

Mr. Cutchshaw.

No; I don't.

Mr. Griffin.

Was Lowery there?

Mr. Cutchshaw.

No; I don't think so.

Mr. Griffin.

Was Harrison there?

Mr. Cutchshaw.

I don't think he was there.

Mr. Griffin.

Anybody from the juvenile bureau there?

Mr. Cutchshaw.

I was the only one from the juvenile. There was about four or five officers, two at the desk and one at the Harwood side there checking