Mr. Griffin.

Who was that?

Mr. Croy.

J.W. Dyson.

Mr. Griffin.

I mean in the downtown area, was there one that you rode with ?

Mr. Croy.

I didn't ride in any particular downtown area over twice since I have been in the reserves, I don't guess. As a district in the downtown area.

Mr. Griffin.

Now, did you have occasion to ride out in the area of the Vegas Club?

Mr. Croy.

Yes.

Mr. Griffin.

How often would you ride in that area ?

Mr. Croy.

I have ridden out there a couple or three times.

Mr. Griffin.

Who did you ride that area with?

Mr. Croy.

I don't know. I just went to the substation and checked out with the squad.

Mr. Griffin.

Was Officer Dyson assigned to that area?

Mr. Croy.

No; he is an APB.

Mr. Griffin.

Is West Illinois Avenue anywhere near the Vegas Club ?

Mr. Croy.

No.

Mr. Griffin.

How about around 1720 South Lamar, is that anywhere near?

Mr. Croy.

No.

Mr. Griffin.

Have you ever testified in any court case before?

Mr. Croy.

No.

Mr. Griffin.

Now, after Ruby shot Oswald, did there come a time when you ran up the Main Street ramp and stopped reporters leaving?

Mr. Croy.

Yes.

Mr. Griffin.

How long was that after this scuffle on the floor?

Mr. Croy.

That is hard to say, because it was right there, you might say, right with the scuffle on the floor that they said "seal the basement."

Mr. Griffin.

How long did you stand up there at the Main Street ramp?

Mr. Croy.

Oh, just a few minutes. Then I moved to the entrance into the jail office.

Mr. Griffin.

How long did you remain there?

Mr. Croy.

A good while.

Mr. Griffin.

Then what time did you go off duty?

Mr. Croy.

It was about 8 o'clock that night.

Mr. Griffin.

During that period, did you tell anybody that you had seen a man brush by you who you thought was Ruby? Mr. CROY. Yes.

Mr. Griffin.

Who did you tell at that time?

Mr. Croy.

Lieutenant McCoy.

Mr. Griffin.

Reserve Lieutenant McCoy?

Mr. Croy.

Yes.

Mr. Griffin.

Anybody else?

Mr. Croy.

I don't recall if I mentioned it or not to Reserve Lieutenant Nicholson, I may have.

Mr. Griffin.

Nicholson?

Mr. Croy.

Yes.

Mr. Griffin.

What did Lieutenant McCoy say when you told him that ?

Mr. Croy.

I don't recall what he said.

Mr. Griffin.

Why did you tell him about it?

Mr. Croy.

We were just talking about it later on that afternoon.

Mr. Griffin.

Well, what were you saying?

Mr. Croy.

We were just talking about what happened in the basement, where he was at and where I was at.

Mr. Griffin.

Were you speculating about where he came from or how he got in or anything like that?

Mr. Croy.

A little bit, I am trying to figure out what the heck happened, really.

Mr. Griffin.

Were there other officers in the basement doing that also ?

Mr. Croy.

They were doing it just between theirselves. There wasn't any group talking about it, I don't know.

Mr. Griffin.

What time was it that you talked, approximately, to Lieutenant McCoy ?

Mr. Croy.

Oh, I don't know.