Mr. Hubert.

Now, at the time that you relieved Captain Frazier, did he convey any information to you?
Captain TALBERT. Yes, sir.

Mr. Hubert.

Tell us what he said?
Captain TALBERT. Said he had a communication with Sheriff Decker and Mr. Newsom, with the FBI, and both were anxious to transfer Oswald at the time. Transfer him immediately to the county jail, and that he had been unable to contact the chief due to a phone malfunction. That he couldn't call him.

Mr. Hubert.

Did he tell you what time he had received that information?
Captain TALBERT. He did; but I don't recall what time, sir.

Mr. Hubert.

Did he tell you of any security plans that had been made to transfer Oswald?
Captain TALBERT. No, sir.

Mr. Hubert.

Did he tell you of any security plans that should be made, or had been ordered?
Captain TALBERT. No, sir.

Mr. Hubert.

Did he then go off duty? I am talking about Captain Frazier
Captain TALBERT. Yes, sir; I relieved him and he went off duty.

Mr. Hubert.

What did you do then with reference to the transfer?
Captain TALBERT. Continued his efforts to contact the chief through--going through the telephone exchange. I wanted to contact him by telephone. He had contacted Captain Fritz with the information from both Mr. Newsom and the sheriff, and Captain Fritz said he couldn't transfer him until the chief authorized it.

Mr. Hubert.

Did you talk to Fritz yourself?
Captain TALBERT. No, sir; that was conveyed to me by Captain Frazier before he left.

Mr. Hubert.

I see.
Captain TALBERT. And I got the telephone company to put a buzzer on the chief's line, and there is no response, and they have something that is louder than a buzzer. I can't recall the term they use, but you have to get permission from the chief operator to utilize that. I had that put on the chiefs line, and still no response. Obviously the line was defective, so, I had a squad sent to the chief's home with the request that he call me.

Mr. Hubert.

Did he call you?
Captain TALBERT. Yes, sir.

Mr. Hubert.

From his home?
Captain TALBERT. Yes, sir.

Mr. Hubert.

Was his phone out of order?
Captain TALBERT. I don't know, sir, but by all appearances, it was out of order. I think that latter item I was speaking of was around the entire neighborhood, almost. It is quite loud, even though a phone may be off the hook.

Mr. Hubert.

What did you say to the chief?
Captain TALBERT. I repeated the conversation that Frazier had told me that the sheriff had told him, and also Mr. Newsom had told him about two calls received by the FBI office during the night. Both by men speaking in a calm voice and both conveyed the same message that before Oswald reached the county jail "A hundred of us will see that he is dead." And the request by Sheriff Decker, and Mr. Newsom, that he be transferred immediately.

Mr. Hubert.

It was your understanding that Newsom had received a message twice?
Captain TALBERT. His office. Not Mr. Newsom personally. His office.

Mr. Hubert.

I see. Do you know whether any such message had also been received by the sheriff's office independently?

Captain TALBERT. No, sir; I don't.

Mr. Hubert.

What time did you convey that information?
Captain TALBERT. It was approximately 6:30, my conversation with Chief Curry.

Mr. Hubert.

Did he give you any instructions?
Captain TALBERT. He said if I would call the sheriff and Mr. Newsom, tell them that he would be in his office between 8 and 9, and he would contact them.