Mr. Stevenson.

At the top of the Commerce Street ramp, or near the top. I stepped back up here and told those officers that the man that did the shooting was in custody and there was no more trouble. Ruby was taken upstairs and the ambulance picked up Oswald.

Mr. Hubert.

Did you go up with Ruby yourself?

Mr. Stevenson.

No; Captain King, Detective Archer, and I believe McMillon went up with Lee Harvey Oswald.

Mr. Hubert.

You mean with Ruby?

Mr. Stevenson.

I mean with Ruby, pardon me. With Ruby up to the Jail office. Captain King advised me when I came back down that they had stripped Ruby of his clothing, searched him to see that he had nothing on him with which he could harm himself or harm anyone else, and in about, oh, I would say possibly 10 minutes after he was taken upstairs, Secret Service Agent Forrest Sorrels did go up and talk with him, and Sergeant Dean, I believe it was, took him up there. Now this was told to me by Sergeant Dean, that Mr. Sorrels did request to go up and talk to him, and he did take him up there.

Mr. Hubert.

Did you observe Ruby before he was stripped of his clothing?

Mr. Stevenson.

Yes; I observed him in the jail office after he had been picked up, after he had shot Oswald.
He had been picked up from just outside the jail office door near the ramp and was taken into the jail office, and he was standing in the jail office with the detectives holding him, when I walked in there.

Mr. Hubert.

Did you observe any kind of press pass on his person?

Mr. Stevenson.

No, sir.

Mr. Hubert.

Did you know Ruby prior to that time?

Mr. Stevenson.

No, sir; I had never seen him before, as far as I know.

Mr. Hubert.

Had you seen him in the crowd ?

Mr. Stevenson.

No, sir.

Mr. Hubert.

Did Ruby say anything in your presence that you yourself heard?

Mr. Stevenson.

Not that I heard myself.

Mr. Hubert.

Did you give any orders concerning the search of Ruby's automobile ?

Mr. Stevenson.

Yes, sir; I did.

Mr. Hubert.

Will you tell us what they were, please ?

Mr. Stevenson.

I don't recall who contacted me or called me and told me where his car was on the parking station near the Western Union, advising me that he had a dog in the car, a dog of some kind. I contacted my Automobile Theft Bureau, which handles and is responsible for all impounded cars, and asked Lieutenant Smart to go up and get the car. He took someone with him, I don't recall who, to impound the automobile, search it, and take everything out of it that he could find.

Mr. Hubert.

Now you did not get your information about the location of the car from Ruby himself?

Mr. Stevenson.

No, sir; I did not.

Mr. Hubert.

And you think you got it from someone whose name you don't know or now remember?

Mr. Stevenson.

I don't recall who it was. It is possible someone who had talked to Ruby, but now I can't say about that because I just don't recall who it was that advised me that his car was up there at the Western Union, but I did receive the information and directed Lieutenant Smart to get the car and search it thoroughly, impound it, and have the pound take the dog.

Mr. Hubert.

So that when you did get the information about Ruby's car, you also got the information that there was a dog in it? M

Mr. Stevenson.

Yes, sir.

Mr. Hubert.

Do you know who was assigned to control traffic at the corner of Main and Pearl? That is, by the Western Union Office?

Mr. Stevenson.

No, sir; I don't.

Mr. Hubert.

Or Main and Harwood?

Mr. Stevenson.

No, sir; I don't.