Mr. Jenner.

Robert was?

Mr. Pic.

Yes, sir; under custody of the Secret Service.

Mr. Jenner.

What day of the week was this ?

Mr. Pic.

This was Sunday, sir.

Mr. Jenner.

The day of the death of your brother?

Mr. Pic.

Yes, sir.

Mr. Jenner.

The 24th of November 1963?

Mr. Pic.

Yes, sir.

Mr. Jenner.

What else was said?

Mr. Pic.

He told me that some local business people would make arrangements for the funeral and there would be no expense to him. I told him I was sorry it happened and everything.

Mr. Jenner.

Did he say anything about having seen your brother at the Dallas City Police Station prior to this telephone conversation?

Mr. Pic.

No, sir; he didn't.

Mr. Jenner.

Was there any discussion in this telephone conversation about the assassination of President Kennedy?

Mr. Pic.

No, sir; there wasn't.

Mr. Jenner.

About the possible involvement of your brother in that connection?

Mr. Pic.

No, sir; there wasn't.

Mr. Jenner.

I take it, then, it was confined largely, if not exclusively, to the death of your brother?

Mr. Pic.

The conversation was just about as I related it, sir. It was mostly confined to the death of Lee.

Mr. Jenner.

And his burial?

Mr. Pic.

Yes, sir.

Mr. Jenner.

Did you attend the funeral services?

Mr. Pic.

No, sir; I was not permitted. In fact, the Secret Service did not let me write Robert for, I think, 7 to 8 days after the assassination. At that time they granted me permission to freely correspond with him.

Mr. Jenner.

And you did so?

Mr. Pic.

I think we have written about two, three letters back and forth. I am the one who fails to write. He never fails to write.

Mr. Jenner.

The subject matter of these letters involved Lee; any of them?

Mr. Pic.

I think the very first one I got concerned the welfare of his family. They were out at the farm. That his company treated him very good about all the time lost. That Marina asked about us and how we were getting along. In my return letter to him I told him nobody had bothered us and we were getting along just fine. He informed me that he was--I suggested if they could, to come down and stay with us awhile. We had just purchased a new house, we had the room, and he wrote back and told me that because he had missed all the time because of the incidents he was unable to get any more time from his company without losing his job.

Mr. Jenner.

Have you seen Marina in the meantime?

Mr. Pic.

No, sir.

Mr. Jenner.

The last time you saw her, I take it, then, was Thanksgiving Day 1962?

Mr. Pic.

That is correct, sir.

Mr. Jenner.

Has there been any correspondence between you?

Mr. Pic.

No, sir.

Mr. Jenner.

Has there been any correspondence that was indirect in any fashion?

Mr. Pic.

My last letter I received from Robert was right after he appeared here. He mentioned that Marina often asked about my wife and I. Other than this, there has been no mention. He has mentioned about the grave being desecrated, and some information concerning the gravesite of Lee.

Mr. Jenner.

Before I return to some specifics, is there anything else that has occurred to you in your reflection on this matter that you would like to mention?

Mr. Pic.

The actual assassination, that time period or what, sir?

Mr. Jenner.

Well, anything you think that might be relevant to the Commission's investigation as to the circumstances surrounding the assassination