Mrs. Odio.

[Pointing.]

Mr. Liebeler.

You indicate the man with the green X over his head as being Oswald, and that is the man who was in your apartment?

Mrs. Odio.

He looks a little bit fatter. I don't know if it is the picture. He looked thinner when he was in the apartment, than he looks in this picture. He was kind of drawn when he was there. His face was kind of drawn. But he looks more familiar there. He looks more like he looked that day.

Mr. Liebeler.

In Exhibit No. 453-B, the man with the green line over his head looks more like the man that was in your apartment; is that correct?

Mrs. Odio.

That's correct.

Mr. Liebeler.

Do you have any doubt that that man with the green line over his head in Pizzo Exhibit No. 453-B Was the man who was in your apartment?

Mrs. Odio.

Well, if it is not, it is his twin.

Mr. Liebeler.

Now, I show you a photograph that has been marked Garner Exhibit No. I and ask you if you recognize that man.

Mrs. Odio.

That is Oswald.

Mr. Liebeler.

Is that the man who was in your apartment?

Mrs. Odio.

Yes.

Mr. Liebeler.

Are you sure?

Mrs. Odio.

He doesn't have the little thing, the little moustache that he had that day. He looks shaved there, and he did not look shaved that day.

Mr. Liebeler.

I show you Pizzo Exhibit No. 453-C and ask you if that looks like the man who was in your apartment?

Mrs. Odio.

That is not the expression he had, but he has the same forehead and everything. But his lips, the only thing that confuses me is the lips that did not look like the same man. It is that unshaved thing that got me that day.

Mr. Liebeler.

Does Pizzo Exhibit No. 453-C appear to you, does the man in that picture appear to be Somewhat unshaven, or similar to the one you saw in your apartment?

Mrs. Odio.

I think he was not. The only thing he had not shaved was around where the mouth is, and everything else was shaved. That is way he looked, kind of clothes hanging on him.

Mr. Liebeler.

Do you think this man in Pizzo Exhibit No. 453-C is Lee Harvey Oswald?

Mrs. Odio.

Yes; I think that is him.

Mr. Liebeler.

Do you think that is the man that was in your apartment?

Mrs. Odio.

Well, let me say something. I think this man was the one that was in my apartment. I am not too sure of that picture. He didn't look like this. He was smiling that day. He was more smiling than in this picture.

Mr. Liebeler.

We have to put the pictures down on the record, because when somebody reads the record-- you say that he--

Mrs. Odio.

He looks more relaxed in Exhibit No. 453-C. He looks more smiling, like Exhibit No. 453-B, or different countenance.

Mr. Liebeler.

I have some motion pictures of the scene that we have been looking at here in these still pictures. These pictures that have been marked Exhibit Nos. 453-B and 453-C were taken from a movie that was made of that, and we also have on that movie a picture of Lee Oswald as he appeared on the television program in New Orleans on a sound track. I want you to look at those pictures and tell us after you have looked at the pictures if you think that man was the same man who was in your apartment.
I have not yet made arrangements for the projector to be set up, and there is an FBI agent bringing another picture over here from the FBI office that I want you to look at this morning before you leave. But I would like to have you--and I have another witness waiting for me, and I have nine more witnesses. Could you come back later this evening to look at the motion pictures? And in the meantime, I will have the Secret Service set up a projection room to view the films?

Mrs. Odio.

Yes.

Mr. Liebeler.

Why. don't we terminate momentarily now, and as soon as the FBI comes over, I will show you this picture, and I will call the Secret Service