Mr. Pena.

I know I went to Mexico last year.

Mr. Liebeler.

Well, this passport application, the one that we have already marked, is dated June 24, and the part, the supplement to it, or what purports to be a supplement to it indicates that you went to Mexico for 8 days in May of 1963. Now this part that we are looking at is not signed by you at any point.

Mr. Pena.

You mean that's when I applied for my passport?

Mr. Liebeler.

No; you applied for your passport on June 24, 1963. That was after you came back from Mexico. You didn't need your passport to go to Mexico. I don't think you did, anyway.

Mr. Pena.

Yes; I believe so. I got my citizen papers: yes.

Mr. Liebeler.

But the information that is set forth on this second part of the application, to the extent that it indicates that you went to Cuba in 1959 in May and April, is correct, is it not?

Mr. Pena.

Well, I don't know the exact date, but it was around there, somewhere around there.

Mr. Liebeler.

The information that you came to the United States in October of 1946 is correct, is it not? That's correct approximately?

Mr. Pena.

Yes; around.

Mr. Liebeler.

And you lived at 223 West 105th Street in New York City, did you not, for a time?

Mr. Pena.

Yes; I lived in that place.

Mr. Liebeler.

Now on the application, the original application that we have marked as "Exhibit No. 1," which you signed, it indicates, does it not, that you were going to go to Spain and that you planned to go to Spain for a vacation trip of approximately 2 weeks.

Mr. Pena.

Yes.

Mr. Liebeler.

Now in fact, you didn't go to Spain at that time; is that right?

Mr. Pena.

Yes.

Mr. Liebeler.

You went to Puerto Rico and the Dominican Republic?

Mr. Pena.

Yes.

Mr. Liebeler.

What made you change your mind about that?

Mr. Pena.

I don't know; I just changed my mind. I postponed the trip to Europe for this year.

Mr. Liebeler.

Do you recall that you did plan to go to Spain on vacation?

Mr. Pena.

What?

Mr. Liebeler.

Do you recall that you did plan to go to Spain on vacation?

Mr. Pena.

Yes, sir. That's where I did take my passport. You also use a passport.

Mr. Liebeler.

Where did you fill this application out?

Mr. Pena.

Right here in New Orleans at 701 Loyola Street, if I am not wrong, the new Federal building.

Mr. Liebeler.

At 701 Loyola Street, the new Federal building?

Mr. Pena.

Yes, sir.

Mr. Liebeler.

Did you see Lee Harvey Oswald at the passport office on the day you applied for this passport?

Mr. Pena.

I don't believe he was there.

Mr. Liebeler.

He applied for a passport on the same day.

Mr. Pena.

He applied for the passport on the same day?

Mr. Liebeler.

Yes.

Mr. Pena.

I don't remember seeing him there. I remember the day I applied for my passport there were a lot of people from--I don't know from where, India or Africa. You know, colored people. There were so, he people there. They were seamen or something, and one American girl got all of those colored people. She was helping all of them that day. A bunch of people there, colored people.

Mr. Liebeler.

You have no recollection of seeing Oswald there at that time?

Mr. Pena.

No.

Mr. Liebeler.

As far as you know, you never saw Oswald at any time other than that time you saw him in your bar?

Mr. Pena.

No.

Mr. Liebeler.

He never had any conversation with you; is that correct?

Mr. Pena.

Not that I recall.