Mr. Liebeler.

Do you remember whether Ruperto was in the bar when Oswald was there?

Mr. Pena.

I don't believe he was there. I don't believe so.

Mr. Liebeler.

Was Evaristo Rodriguez there?

Mr. Pena.

When Oswald was there?

Mr. Liebeler.

Yes.

Mr. Pena.

He was the one who was serving Oswald.

Mr. Liebeler.

[handing picture to witness]. I show you a picture that has previously been marked as "Bringuier Exhibit No. 1," and I ask you if you recognize anybody in that picture.

Mr. Pena.

Yes, Oswald; I recognize him.

Mr. Liebeler.

Which one is Oswald?

Mr. Pena.

Oswald is marked in some way.

Mr. Liebeler.

He has an "X" on him, is that correct?

Mr. Pena.

Yes.

Mr. Liebeler.

Do you recognize the place where this picture was taken?

Mr. Pena.

I know about it now because I seen in the FBI. They have a place. Put it on the television. That's the International Trade Mart, I believe so.

Mr. Liebeler.

The FBI put this picture on television?

Mr. Pena.

I don't know exactly if that picture or another picture, but they got Oswald and a group--I don't know if this group-handing out propaganda to other people. I got in an argument with the FBI about that, too. I told them if they had that propaganda paper, why don't they find out the printing, where they printing that propaganda, and that would be easy to find the other people. See, I ----

Mr. Liebeler.

Why, because if they found the place where the propaganda was printed, they would--

Mr. Pena.

Yes. Those people might know Oswald and many other people in connection with Oswald.

Mr. Liebeler.

Would it surprise you if I told you we do know who printed the handbills?

Mr. Pena.

Well--you say you do know?

Mr. Liebeler.

Yes.

Mr. Pena.

Okay. I took two courses in investigation work, one from the International Detective School, and one from the Applied Sciences of Chicago. The big man there is an ex-FBI man, Mr. Dickerson Cook. So I took that course, too. After I finished, he sent me a letter. I like investigation very much.

Mr. Liebeler.

Let me point out to you a young man in this picture. He is the second man to Oswald's right and behind. He is standing there with some leaflets in his hand. He has a white, short-sleeved shirt on and a tie, and he appears to be handing out leaflets. Did you ever see that man before?

Mr. Pena.

I don't believe so.

Mr. Liebeler.

Could he have been the man who was with Oswald in the bar?

Mr. Pena.

I couldn't say.

Mr. Liebeler.

You don't recognize anybody else in that picture except Oswald, is that correct?

Mr. Pena.

Yes.

Mr. Liebeler.

[handing picture to witness]. I show you a picture which has been previously identified as "Pizzo Exhibit No. 453-A," and ask you if you recognize anybody in that picture.

Mr. Pena.

I recognize Oswald there [indicating].

Mr. Liebeler.

He has a green "X" line over his head?

Mr. Pena.

Yes.

Mr. Liebeler.

Do you recognize anyone else in the picture?

Mr. Pena.

No.

Mr. Liebeler.

[handing picture to witness]. I ask you the same question with respect to "Pizzo Exhibit No. 453-B."

Mr. Pena.

I recognize him [indicating].

Mr. Liebeler.

With the green marking over his head?

Mr. Pena.

Yes.

Mr. Liebeler.

And no one else?

Mr. Pena.

No.