Mr. Rodriguez.

[answering directly]. Yes.

Mr. Liebeler.

We have information that you saw a man whom you believe to be Lee Harvey Oswald in the bar some time in 1963. Would you tell us all about that?

Mr. Rodriguez.

These men came into the bar, two men came into the bar, one of them which I learned later through TV and pictures and newspapers was Oswald. These men came into the bar. One of them .spoke Spanish and the one who spoke Spanish ordered the tequila, so I told him that the price of the tequila was 50 cents. I brought him the tequila and a little water. The man protested at the price, thought it was too high, and he made some statement to the effect that he was a Cuban, but an American citizen and that surely--words to the effect that surely the owner of this bar must be a capitalist, and we had a little debate about the price, but that passed over. Then the man who I later learned was Oswald ordered a lemonade. Now I didn't know what to give him because we don't have lemonades in the bar. So I asked Orest Pena how I should fix a lemonade. Orest told me to take a little of this lemon flavoring, squirt in some water, and charge him 25 cents for the lemonade, and that's the incident surrounding that situation.

Mr. Liebeler.

You did not know the names of these men at that time, did you?

Mr. Rodriguez.

I didn't know the names of them then; no.

Mr. Liebeler.

Did both of the men speak Spanish or just one of them?

Mr. Rodriguez.

Only the man that appeared to be a Latin or Cuban spoke Spanish.

Mr. Liebeler.

So the man who you later thought to be Oswald did not speak Spanish; is that right?

Mr. Rodriguez.

No; the man I later learned to be Oswald did not speak Spanish.

Mr. Liebeler.

What time of the day did this happen?

Mr. Rodriguez.

This happened about 2:30 or between 2:30 and 3 o'clock in the morning. I am not certain of the exact hour, but that's the best of my recollection.

Mr. Liebeler.

Were either of these men drunk?

Mr. Rodriguez.

The man I later learned to be Oswald had his arm around the Latin-appearing man, and Oswald appeared to be somewhat drunk.

Mr. Liebeler.

You mentioned previously that someone was a Cuban but an American citizen. Were you referring to the man that was with Oswald, or Orest Pena, the owner of the bar?

Mr. Rodriguez.

What I did was, the Latin-appearing man asked me if the owner of the bar was a Cuban, and I told him that he was a Cuban, but an American citizen. That's the way that was.

Mr. Liebeler.

Are you able to say the nationality of the man that was with Oswald?

Mr. Rodriguez.

I am not able to state what his exact nationality was, but he appeared to be a Latin, and that's about as far as I can go. He could have been a Mexican; he could have been a Cuban, but at this point, I don't recall.

Mr. Liebeler.

What did this man look like?

Mr. Logan.

You want a description of him?

Mr. Liebeler.

Yes; how old?

Mr. Rodriguez.

He was a man about 28 years old, very hairy arms, dark hair on his arms.

Mr. Liebeler.

About how tall was he?

Mr. Logan.

He says he was about my height. That's about 5 feet 8. He is about the same build of man as I am, short and rather stocky, wide. He was a stocky man with broad shoulders, about 5 feet 8 inches.

Mr. Liebeler.

Do you know how much he weighed approximately?

Mr. Logan.

He probably hit around 155. He doesn't remember the exact weight, but he would guess around the same weight as I appear to be.

Mr. Liebeler.

So he weighed about 155 pounds or so?

Mr. Rodriguez.

Yes.

Mr. Liebeler.

Was he taller or shorter than Oswald?

Mr. Rodriguez.

Just a little taller than Oswald.

Mr. Liebeler.

Was he heavier than Oswald or lighter?