Mr. Fenley.

I couldn't be positive, but I think it could have been; yes. This could be checked very easily by going to the newspaper file and getting the date and then going back a couple of days.

Mr. Hubert.

This Mr. Carter, I think you said, checked with Mr. Hamblen? That is, he told you he did?

Mr. Fenley.

Yes.

Mr. Hubert.

On the same day that you told him about it, which was the next day?

Mr. Fenley.

The next day after; yes.

Mr. Hubert.

I think you mentioned that he said that you suggested that he check it out with Hamblen, and that he did right away, or in a few hours?

Mr. Fenley.

I would have written the story myself, except I felt a little dubious, I must say, of it and I wanted George to do the same thing and see if the story matched. So now, frankly, I am not too positive when George actually talked to Hamblen, but I believe the story appeared on a Saturday morning. So if it could have been Thanksgiving, if Thanksgiving would be on a Thursday, and George talked to him on Friday, it would appear for the Saturday paper.

Mr. Hubert.

But you have a recollection that Clark spoke to you after having spoken to Hamblen?

Mr. Fenley.

Yes; I am certain of that.

Mr. Hubert.

Before the story appeared?

Mr. Fenley.

Yes.

Mr. Hubert.

And told you that the story he got from Hamblen was about the same as what you told him Hamblen told you?

Mr. Fenley.

You mean Garter?

Mr. Hubert.

Yes; George Garter.

Mr. Fenley.

Yes.

Mr. Hubert.

Is there anything else, sir, you would like to comment upon concerning this matter?

Mr. Fenley.

No; Gee, I wish I--I am still very curious about this, but what results, if any, this yielded, frankly, I don't mean this for the record, but I frankly heard that he recanted the tale.

Mr. Hubert.

Let me ask you this. This is a part of the formality of closing these depositions. I don't think, and I ask you to state whether you concur, that there has been any conversation between us this morning other than that which has been recorded in this deposition?

Mr. Fenley.

No.

Mr. Hubert.

You do concur?

Mr. Fenley.

I concur.

Mr. Hubert.

Thank you very much, sir.

Mr. Fenley.

Yes, sir.

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Aubrey Lee Lewis

Testimony of Aubrey Lewis Lee

The testimony of Aubrey Lee Lewis was taken at 11:30 a.m., on July 14, 1964, in the office of the U.S. attorney, 301 Post Office Building, Bryan and Ervay Streets, Dallas, Tex., by Mr. Leon D. Hubert, Jr., assistant counsel of the President's Commission. Dean Robert G. Story, special counsel to the attorney general of Texas and Sam Kelley, assistant attorney general of Texas, were present.

Mr. Hubert.

This is the deposition of Aubrey Lee Lewis. Mr. Lewis, my name is Leon Hubert. I am a member of the advisory staff of the general counsel of the President's Commission. Under the provisions of Executive Order 11130 dated November '29, 1963, and the Joint resolution of Congress No. 137, and the rules of procedure adopted by the President's Commission in conformance with that Executive order and the joint resolution, I have been authorized to take a sworn deposition from you. I state to you now that the general nature of the Commission's inquiry is to ascertain, evaluate and report