Mr. Hubert.

Did you graduate?

Mr. Fenley.

Four years. No; I did not graduate.

Mr. Hubert.

Study journalism?

Mr. Fenley.

Yes; part of the time.

Mr. Hubert.

Your whole adult experience, I gather, therefore, has been in newspaper work?

Mr. Fenley.

That is true.

Mr. Hubert.

Now, do you know a Mr. Hamblen connected with the Western Union Co. here in Dallas?

Mr. Fenley.

Yes; I have talked with him on one occasion. I don't know him personally.

Mr. Hubert.

What was that one occasion?

Mr. Fenley.

The date is rather vague in my mind.

Mr. Hubert.

Can you tell us perhaps the occasion?

Mr. Fenley.

Yes; I am a stringer.

Mr. Hubert.

A what?

Mr. Fenley.

A stringer. A correspondent for Time magazine, and I had written a long piece which we transmitted by Western Union, and I had gone into Western Union to hand this over for transmitting, and I fell in conversation with Mr. Hamblen.

Mr. Hubert.

Had you known him prior to that time?

Mr. Fenley.

No; I had not.

Mr. Hubert.

Could you tell us about what time of day it was?

Mr. Fenley.

It was at night. I forget the exact time of night, but I believe I had driven from Mesquite with the story to give it to Western Union. It might have been 11 or 12 o'clock.

Mr. Hubert.

It happened that Hamblen was the clerk or employee of the Western Union in service?

Mr. Fenley.

Yes, sir.

Mr. Hubert.

Can you tell us how you came to engage him in conversation?

Mr. Fenley.

He noticed the wire or press message which I had, and it had to do with the assassination, or Oswald, frankly. I can't remember the content of the wire, but we sort of chatted there for a moment, and he recalled that he was certain that Oswald had come into the office on occasion.
I don't know whether he used the word several. I took it to mean that. And received some various small amounts of money orders. And certainly this was interesting to me. We kept chatting and I asked him, now how big were the amounts of the orders, and he said, "I don't think there would be anything over $15, $10 or $15." And I asked him, "Now, you are pretty sure this was Oswald? I mean, the guy you have seen in the pictures and things like that?" And he replied he was. He said, "He used to come in and would give the girls a hard time. He was a cantankerous individual."

Mr. Hubert.

Did he mention what girls?

Mr. Fenley.

No; not by name. So he said, "I believe the last time"--and he couldn't recall the date or anything--"that he came in, he went himself to wait on the fellow because he knew that he was sort of difficult to deal with." Well, this was certainly interesting to me as a newspaperman.

Mr. Hubert.

Had you heard that story before?

Mr. Fenley.

No; I had not.

Mr. Hubert.

In other words, your coming upon this story was something of a gratuity?

Mr. Fenley.

It certainly was. I was slightly amazed. And the other thing, there was a marble countertop there in the office, and he said, or he recalled that Oswald had written in what he described a curious sort of printing with, as best he could tell, he wrote out some letters. For instance, an "N" he said as printed by Oswald would have a high rising right side to it. He said it was a rather curious sort of printing.

Mr. Hubert.

Did he demonstrate that to you?

Mr. Fenley.

He demonstrated this on the marble.

Mr. Hubert.

Hamblen did so?

Mr. Fenley.

Yes.

Mr. Hubert.

Did he indicate that it was in a foreign alphabet?