Mr. Greener.

That was on a--I believe that was on a Monday--following Monday, as I remember it.
No; wait a minute. No; it wasn't a Monday. That holiday, it's got me mixed up. It must have been on a Friday after the Thanksgiving holiday.

Mr. Liebeler.

That was after the story had already been out in the newspaper, is that right?

Mr. Greener.

Yes.

Mr. Liebeler.

This reporter came in and wanted to talk to Ryder?

Mr. Greener.

Right. The paper stated the owner of the Irving Sports Shop, and he apparently figured that was the correct information.
Of course, all the newspapers, they didn't check out any stories; they just run to their office and sent it in, as you well know. No one checked out anything. Anything they could get hold of, they put in print, and some of the information they got a hold, I don't know where it came from.

Mr. Liebeler.

Do you have any reason to believe that any reporter talked to Ryder prior to the time the FBI came to your shop?

Mr. Greener.

One told me he did.

Mr. Liebeler.

Do you remember that reporter's name?

Mr. Greener.

No; he was with the Times Herald.

Mr. Liebeler.

Dallas Times Herald?

Mr. Greener.

I couldn't swear.

Mr. Liebeler.

He told you he talked to Ryder?

Mr. Greener.

Ryder told me he hadn't.

Mr. Liebeler.

Ryder told you the reporter had not talked to him?

Mr. Greener.

Had not talked to him.

Mr. Liebeler.

Did the reporter tell you when he had talked to Ryder?

Mr. Greener.

He told me that he talked to him earlier in the morning. I don't know when that was. I am inclined to believe, to the best of my knowledge, it was Thanksgiving Day. Now I could be wrong on that. My recollection is that this story first came out--I am thinking it came out on Thanksgiving Day.

Mr. Liebeler.

I have here a clipping from the New York Times of November 29, 1963, which appears to be one of the first times that this story was released in the New York papers at any rate, November 29, 1963. Mr. GREENER. What was Thanksgiving Day?

Mr. Liebeler.

Thanksgiving Day was on a Thursday, was it not?

Mr. Greener.

Yes.

Mr. Liebeler.

That would have been November 28, so that the 29th would have been the day that it came out in the New York papers, and it very likely could have come out in the Dallas paper on Thanksgiving Day.

Mr. Greener.

I think it was Thanksgiving Day when it came out in the paper, because I hadn't heard anything of it, and I remember we were playing dominoes when the paper came, and we quit and read the paper, and then also they had come by to check on this story, and we came up to the shop and went through that for Walter Cronkite's program.

Mr. Liebeler.

The reporter had come out to check out the story?

Mr. Greener.

Yes.

Mr. Liebeler.

Let the record show that the newspaper clipping that I previously referred to is from the New York Times of November 29, 1963, and the story is entitled, "Gunsmith Attached Sight for Man Named Oswald," and it is a story written by Mr. John Herbers, and it has been marked as Exhibit No. 2, on Mr. Greener's deposition.
Now do you have a feeling or do you have the thought based on what this reporter from the Dallas News told you that the reporter had talked to Ryder prior to the time that the FBI ever came here to the shop?

Mr. Greener.

You are going to have to go through that again. I am not Sure that I was following you all the way. I was thinking a little bit while you were talking.

Mr. Liebeler.

I am trying to find out at what time this story first broke, whether the FBI had been here at the shop to ask any questions before the story came out in the newspapers?