Mr. Liebeler.

I think that Mr. Sanders' office called you previously and told you that we would be out here?

Mr. Greener.

Yes.

Mr. Liebeler.

I have advised you that I am an attorney on the staff of the President's Commission. I want to ask you about some of the background concerning the possibility that Lee Oswald or some other Oswald had a rifle in the shop here and had some work done on it? Would you state your name?

Mr. Greener.

Charles W. Greener.

Mr. Liebeler.

Are you the owner and operator of the Irving Sports Shop located at 221 East Irving Boulevard in Irving?

Mr. Greener.

. Yes, sir.

Mr. Liebeler.

Is Dial D. Ryder one of your employees?

Mr. Greener.

Yes.

Mr. Liebeler.

How long have you known Ryder?

Mr. Greener.

Approximately 6 years.

Mr. Liebeler.

Has he been employed by you here at the shop practically all that time?

Mr. Greener.

Yes.

Mr. Liebeler.

We have a repair tag that has the number 18374 on it and the name Oswald, indicating some repairs were to be made to a rifle. We will mark this picture as Exhibit No. 1, on your deposition. I show you a picture of this tag and ask you if that is a tag of the type that you use here in this shop?

Mr. Greener.

Right.

Mr. Liebeler.

Have you ever seen that tag before?

Mr. Greener.

Yes.

Mr. Liebeler.

Do you remember the first time that you ever saw it?

Mr. Greener.

Approximately a week or less after the assassination was the first time I had seen it. That was on Thanksgiving Day, I guess, because they called me at home and I was eating and I met some of the news media to go through this Thanksgiving.

Mr. Liebeler.

Had there been anything in the newspaper about this tag, or about Oswald having any work done here before you saw the tag?

Mr. Greener.

Yes; it had come out in the news, and this was Walter Cronkite was to run a retraction on it, or at least clarify the thing.

Mr. Liebeler.

What kind of retraction?

Mr. Greener.

Well, they tried to clarify the thing to say that we had a tag showing a certain amount of work for an Oswald, but as far as relating to that particular gun or that particular man, we had no real knowledge of the thing.

Mr. Liebeler.

Had the FBI been out there at the shop before this thing came out in the newspaper?

Mr. Greener.

No; I don't think so. They came out after all the news stories.

Mr. Liebeler.

How did the newspaper get hold of this, do you know?

Mr. Greener.

I couldn't tell you that.

Mr. Liebeler.

You are pretty clear that it was in the press before the FBI ever talked to you?

Mr. Greener.

I am pretty sure it was.

Mr. Liebeler.

Did you know whether the FBI could have talked to Ryder or anybody else at the shop?

Mr. Greener.

That I don't know.

Mr. Liebeler.

You are the owner of the shop, are you not?

Mr. Greener.

Right.

Mr. Liebeler.

Were you here at the shop during the period after the assassination and prior to the time that the FBI came here for the first time?

Mr. Greener.

Yes.

Mr. Liebeler.

If the FBI had come here to talk to anybody about Oswald having been here, they would probably have talked to you, isn't that right?

Mr. Greener.

It is possible. Now I do know that one newsman came in and he wasn't going to consult me in any way, so I don't know whether it would have been the case with the FBI or not.

Mr. Liebeler.

When did the newsman come in?