Mr. Liebeler.

investigation that the FBI conducted and the questioning that we have done, that there was never any man in there by the name of Oswald with any gun at all?

Mr. Ryder.

Yeah--like I said--all I've got is that ticket with his name on it and the work being done.

Mr. Liebeler.

Well, at this point I think we might as well conclude the deposition. The Commission will take under advisement Mr. Schmidt's request to have a polygraph examination administered to him, and I am advised by one of the U.S. attorneys here that one of the other reporters over at the newspaper does remember the conversation and we will take his deposition tomorrow. If you want to have a polygraph examination administered to you, after reflecting on this, or if you have anything further to say about the whole thing, contact Miss Stroud here at the U.S. attorneys office, if you want to.

Mr. Ryder.

Okay. Is that all?

Mr. Liebeler.

Yes; that's all. Thanks a lot, Mr. Ryder.

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Hunter Schmidt, Jr.

Testimony of Hunter , Jr. Schmidt

The testimony of Hunter Schmidt, Jr., was taken at 4:20 p.m., on July 22, 1964, in the office of the U.S. attorney, 301 Post Office Building, Bryan and Ervay Streets, Dallas, Tex., by Mr. Wesley J. Liebeler, assistant counsel of the President's Commission.

Mr. Liebeler.

Would you rise and raise your right hand? Do you solemnly swear that the testimony you are about to give will be the truth, the whole truth, and nothing but the truth, so help you God?

Mr. Schmidt.

I do.

Mr. Liebeler.

Will you please sit down. My name is Wesley J. Liebeler. I am an attorney on the staff of the President's Commission investigating the assassination of President Kennedy. I have been authorized to take your testimony by the Commission pursuant to authority granted to it by Executive Order 11130, dated November 29, 1963, and the joint resolution of Congress No. 137. Under the Commission's rules of procedure, you are entitled to have an attorney present should you wish to have one. And you are entitled to 3 days' notice of the hearing, should you wish to insist upon it. And you are entitled to all privileges in terms of not answering questions that you would have in any other proceeding. I assume that you are prepared to proceed at this point without an attorney, since you don't have one here?

Mr. Schmidt.

I don't think that it would be necessary.

Mr. Liebeler.

Would you state your full name for the record?

Mr. Schmidt.

Hunter Schmidt, Jr.

Mr. Liebeler.

What is your address?

Mr. Schmidt.

1118 Osceola Trail, Carrollton, Tex.

Mr. Liebeler.

When were you born?

Mr. Schmidt.

September 12, 1933.

Mr. Liebeler.

Give us your educational background.

Mr. Schmidt.

Tyler High School, Tyler Junior College; I have a B.A. from Lamar Tech, and I am working on my masters at SMU.

Mr. Liebeler.

In what? In journalism?

Mr. Schmidt.

No; in government. Two courses and a thesis away.

Mr. Liebeler.

I understand that you are presently employed by the Dallas Times Herald, is that correct?

Mr. Schmidt.

That's right.

Mr. Liebeler.

And you work for them in the capacity of?

Mr. Schmidt.

County editor.

Mr. Liebeler.

County editor. What do you do as county editor?

Mr. Schmidt.

I cover, or well you might say my beat is everything in Dallas County outside of the city of Dallas, and parts of Eastern Tarrant County.