(Testimony of Dial Duwayne Ryder Resumed)
Mr. Ryder.
I still don't know--I kind of felt like where they got it was over the radio--originally--I don't know. The CBS boys said that they got it off of the Associated Press wires, is how they got it, or over the AP.
Mr. Liebeler.
Now, it is not the ordinary practice, of course, for the Commission to advise witnesses what kind of an investigation it has made in connection with this thing, at least, not until the report comes out, but I think you ought to know that as a result of the existence of this gun ticket and the story that you told the FBI and the Commission, the FBI has attempted to find every Oswald in the whole Dallas and Fort Worth area and the surrounding area and it has found many of them and it has questioned all of them, some of whom have moved out of Dallas and Fort Worth, as to whether or not they ever had any work done in that gunshop, and you should know that none of them ever did, and you should also know, and I think you probably do by now, that Lee Oswald could not have had any scope mounted on the rifle that he used to assassinate the President in your shop, and in fact, I don't think you claim you did mount that particular scope?
Mr. Ryder.
That's right. We have claimed that it wasn't that one. On the Monday after, well, it was the Monday of the funeral of President Kennedy, that Mr. Horton came out and I thought at that time I had it cleared with him that I hadn't mounted the scope on the gun he used to assassinate the President.
Mr. Liebeler.
That you had not?
Mr. Ryder.
That we had not.
Mr. Liebeler.
And you weren't able to remember Lee Harvey Oswald's face as being the face of the man who had previously been in that shop: isn't that right?
Mr. Ryder.
That's right.
Mr. Liebeler.
And you couldn't associate any specific gun or any specific man with that particular work ticket; isn't that right?
Mr. Ryder.
Right.
Mr. Liebeler.
Do you have any possible suggestions as to where that work ticket could have come from if it appears, and it certainly does appear that no other Oswald came in there and there is no evidence of any sort to indicate that Lee Harvey Oswald ever had any other rifle than the one he used to assassinate the President, and he never brought that one in the sports shop?
Mr. Ryder.
All I know is that we had the ticket laying on the workbench back there and I had written it up and completed the work on it and the gun had been picked up. Now, as to whether it was Lee Oswald, I couldn't positively identify him or if there was another one out there right now I could not identify anybody if they said they did bring it in.
Mr. Liebeler.
And to the best of your recollecttion, you wrote that gun ticket sometime in the early part of November; is that right?
Mr. Ryder.
Yes.
Mr. Liebeler.
And you are certain that you wrote it up before November 22?
Mr. Ryder.
Right.
Mr. Liebeler.
But you are not able to associate that particular ticket with any particular gun in your own mind?
Mr. Ryder.
That's right.
Mr. Liebeler.
I also recall that when I asked you questions about this before, you indicated that possibly we could fix the date on which this ticket had been written because you had written it with a pencil and you said you remembered you had gone to Dallas on that particular day, and that you used a pencil to get some materials from a wholesale shop. Of course, the FBI, as you now know, has gone and has found out every day that you ever went to Dallas to get gun materials and asked you if you could identify the time and the date by reviewing this list of materials that you got from the wholesale house in Dallas and you weren't able to associate it with any particular day you used a pencil.
Mr. Ryder.
Right; he had 2 or 3 days there that he showed me some copies--actually, he gave he some dates that I came to town and signed and there were 2 or 3 days there in that period that I had. Signed with a pencil, and it could have been that some of those days I had a pencil laying handy and I just picked it up rather than taking my pen out of my shirt.
Mr. Liebeler.
Would you be surprised if the Commission concluded, after this
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