Mr. Ryder.

and on Saturday evening I was cleaning it off and found the tag laying back on the workbench.

Mr. Liebeler.

The Saturday following the assassination?

Mr. Ryder.

Yes.

Mr. Liebeler.

You found the tag there yourself?

Mr. Ryder.

Yes.

Mr. Liebeler.

Had the FBI been out here prior to that time?

Mr. Ryder.

No.

Mr. Liebeler.

They had not?

Mr. Ryder.

No, sir.

Mr. Liebeler.

When did the FBI first come out?

Mr. Ryder.

On Monday.

Mr. Liebeler.

On Monday?

Mr. Ryder.

Yes; that was on Monday, of the funeral of the late President.

Mr. Liebeler.

That would have been November 25, 1963, when the FBI came out on Monday and you gave them the tag or showed them this tag; is that right?

Mr. Ryder.

He told us to hold onto it, and then they later came by and got the tag.

Mr. Liebeler.

Did you ever talk to the newspaper reporter about this?

Mr. Ryder.

There were several out here after the FBI had been out, and we told them the same thing that we told the FBI.

Mr. Liebeler.

But you didn't talk to any newspaper reporter before the FBI came out here?

Mr. Ryder.

No.

Mr. Liebeler.

You are quite sure about that?

Mr. Ryder.

I am positive about that.

Mr. Liebeler.

It was your impression at the time the FBI came that they were making a routine check of all guns?

Mr. Ryder.

That is my opinion. That is the idea I had.

Mr. Liebeler.

You don't know of any special reason why they came to this particular gun shop?

Mr. Ryder.

No; he didn't give any specific reason. He was just checking us out. Like I say, probably just routine like he checked all others.

Mr. Liebeler.

Now I show you two pictures that have been marked Exhibits Nos. 3 and 4 on Mr. Greener's deposition. They are pictures of a rifle, and I ask you if you have ever seen a rifle like that or ever worked on one here in your shop?

Mr. Ryder.

I have seen them but never have worked on one of them.

Mr. Liebeler.

Had you seen them before the assassination?

Mr. Ryder.

This is what I was talking about the other day. This is not as plain a picture as Mr. Horton had. Evidently that is a reprint, but there are two screws, one here and one here, where on the tag I have charged for three holes.

Mr. Liebeler.

You are indicating the screws on Exhibit No. 3, that hold the scope mount to the rifle; is that correct?

Mr. Ryder.

Mr. Horton, the FBI man, on the rifle he had it was real plain and you could see these two screws, and this was a hole, but there wasn't any screws. There was just two screws in the mount.

Mr. Liebeler.

The mount had three holes but only two screws?

Mr. Ryder.

That is apparently in the picture you have here, and this is what I was referring to as a cheap mount. This looked to me like even in this picture it was real thin gage metal. I can show you something like that, that we use on a .22 scope, and that is all we use.

Mr. Liebeler.

But in your opinion it is too light a mount?

Mr. Ryder.

Yes; it is too easy to get jarred off on a high-powered rifle.

Mr. Liebeler.

That would throw the accuracy of the rifle off, wouldn't it?

Mr. Ryder.

Yes.

Mr. Liebeler.

That is all I have, Mr. Ryder. I just wanted you to look at the pictures, and I thank you very much.

Mr. Ryder.

I don't know which one it was, but it looked--it looks like a copy