Mrs. Gibson.

my stepmother that Lee was dropping by or my stepmother had told me. Somebody had said something.

Mr. Jenner.

That was the first occasion on which you met Lee Harvey Oswald?

Mrs. Gibson.

Yes.

Mr. Jenner.

Did he stay the evening and then leave?

Mrs. Gibson.

He stayed about an hour and then he left.

Mr. Jenner.

And what did you notice with respect to the relations between Lee Oswald and Marina on that first occasion?

Mrs. Gibson.

I'd say they got along fairly well.

Mr. Jenner.

What was your impression as to whether he was employed at that time?

Mrs. Gibson.

I didn't get any impression one way or the other.

Mr. Jenner.

Did you get any impression in that respect when you and your husband, Gary, visited them on the Sunday afternoon you have mentioned?

Mrs. Gibson.

I believe he talked about his employment, but I am not sure. He must have. They must have talked about it.

Mr. Jenner.

Your impression was he was then working at some kind of employment?

Mrs. Gibson.

Yes; I mean it was just normal to assume. He had an apartment and a child and a wife. He must have been working.

Mr. Jenner.

Were there any others than those you have mentioned who were at the apartment on that Sunday afternoon; you have mentioned the possibility of Lee Harvey Oswald's mother and, of course, there was Lee and the baby and Marina.

Mrs. Gibson.

Later on in the early evening some people came to visit, some of the Russian colony from Fort Worth and Dallas.

I don't recall the names. I think Mrs. Hall and Alex were there. Otherwise, there must have been four other people, four or five other people besides them.

Mr. Jenner.

I will mention some names. Mamantov?

Mrs. Gibson.

No; I don't know that name.

Mr. Jenner.

Meller?

Mrs. Gibson.

No; I don't know.

Mr. Jenner.

You are familiar with the name Meller, aren't you?

Mrs. Gibson.

No; I don't believe so.

Mr. Jenner.

I think you mentioned Mrs. Hall and Kleinlerer.

Mrs. Gibson.

Yes.

Mr. Jenner.

As possibly having been there. Mr. and Mrs. Max Clark?

Mrs. Gibson.

That is a possibility. The more I think about it, it is possible, but I am not sure.

Mr. Jenner.

You were acquainted with or aware of the Clarks?

Mrs. Gibson.

Yes; I believe I knew them.

Mr. Jenner.

They were friends of your father and stepmother?

Mrs. Gibson.

Yes; I am not positive that I knew them very well, but I have a feeling, the name rings a bell definitely.

Mr. Jenner.

Are you familiar with the name George Bouhe?

Mrs. Gibson.

Yes.

Mr. Jenner.

Was George Bouhe there?

Mrs. Gibson.

I am not sure, but the more I think about it, you asked me this question earlier, I think he was there. I think he was the extra man that was there.

Mr. Jenner.

What impression did you get as to whether it had been expected

that this group was to come by or did they just happen by?

Mrs. Gibson.

No; I think they just dropped in.

Mr. Jenner.

Did they stay very long?

Mrs. Gibson.

I left before they left. I don't know.

Mr. Jenner.

What was the nature of the conversation on that occasion?

Mrs. Gibson.

I couldn't really tell. A lot of it was in Russian. You couldn't tell what was going on.

Mr. Jenner.

These were by and large Russian-speaking people?

Mrs. Gibson.

Yes.

Mr. Jenner.

Describe the apartment to me, will you please?