Mr. Thornley.

That is what she told me last summer; yes. He was going to school in Cuba.

Mr. Jenner.

I take it this had nothing to do with yourself and Oswald's views with respect to Castro that you told us about.

Mr. Thornley.

No; this happened, I think, later, in fact I am sure it happened later. At that time Miss Bortin, she was then unmarried, did not know Robert Uname, I believe. I met him, I believe, September a year later.

Mr. Jenner.

Had you finished that?

Mr. Thornley.

Yes.

Mr. Jenner.

I take it that Oswald had no close personal friends at least that you observed ?

Mr. Thornley.

That is correct. And the name of his closest friends I do not know. I do remember he had a close acquaintance that he seemed to get along with pretty well.

Mr. Jenner.

In the unit?

Mr. Thornley.

Yes; but I don't recall this man's name. If it was mentioned to me, I probably could, but

Mr. Jenner.

You were groping for it when you were interviewed. You suggested it might be Charles

Mr. Thornley.

I mentioned a Charles.

Mr. Jenner.

Weis.

Mr. Thornley.

Weir, but that was not the man. This was a friend of a friend of .the friend or a man who could give them that information perhaps that I couldn't.
At this time perhaps, also, I was thinking of a possibility it might have been Weir and since then I have remembered definitely who Weir was.

Mr. Jenner.

Who was he?

Mr. Thornley.

I don't remember whether his first name was Charles but I remember who he was.

Mr. Jenner.

He was a noncom?

Mr. Thornley.

There was a man named Cooley. There was somebody else, and ,these are my associations, but who it was who used to talk Russian in the ranks with Oswald in the morning I don't know, but that is who it was.

Mr. Jenner.

Is this particular man you now mentioned the man who occasionally talked Russian with Oswald in the ranks, is he the man who you had in mind?

Mr. Thornley.

Yes.

Mr. Jenner.

As having been a friend of Oswald's?

Mr. Thornley.

Yes; in that in the same respect that I was a friend of Oswald's. Once, again, the exact terminology I would use would be close acquaintance.

Mr. Jenner.

Yes; I would say from your description on of .the relationship with Oswald that it was more an acquaintanceship than a friendship.

Mr. Thornley.

I think it was probably the same with this person from what I recall, to my knowledge.

Mr. Jenner.

In other words, when you say friend, he wasn't a buddy of Oswald?

Mr. Thornley.

No; Oswald was not the type of person who had, as it has been emphasized on all parts, I think, and it confirms my own impression, was not the type of person who made close friends or who stuck with close friends.

Mr. Jenner.

You saw no instance in which Oswald evidenced affection for anybody, I mean in the nice sense of the word?

Mr. Thornley.

No; none whatsoever.

Mr. Jenner.

Or anybody evidenced any affection in the nice sense of the word for him?

Mr. Thornley.

No.

Mr. Jenner.

I take it your trip to Mexico City was purely one of general interest as you have described and had nothing to do with any interest on your part in going to Cuba or attempting to go to Cuba?

Mr. Thornley.

Believe me, no. I have no desire to go to Cuba unless I am going to take a rifle and be on an invasion force or something.

Mr. Jenner.

Did you hear of anybody in the Marine Corps, whose last name was Hidell?