Mr. Jenner.

Mexican border?

Mr. Thornley.

That is Cinco De Mayo. I arrived in California on May 5 and I stayed there until late August. Now, I think in one of these reports that I gave to the FBI. the information might be different. Since then I have checked with notebooks that I kept of my activity, and I was on my way back to New Orleans in late August. I went by way of Mexico City because I have taken 5 years of Spanish in school and I never had the opportunity to live in an environment where I would have to use it, depend on it solely, and I wanted to see how I would do. I have always wanted to visit Mexico, to see Mexico City. I checked into the prices. I had found out I had enough money that I would be able to go down to Mexico City and stay a short while.
So I went down there for about a week, actually it was 6 days I spent within Mexico, from Tijuana to Mexico City, on a Mexican bus, and then when my money began to run out from Mexico City to Matamoros or Brownsville, Tex., on a Mexican bus.
At this time, on my way up on a bus to Matamoros, it was September 2, because I had that in my notes, I have some notes about the bus ride and, the date September 2.
And I went from Brownsville to New Orleans by way of either Greyhound or Continental.

Mr. Jenner.

When did you arrive in New Orleans?

Mr. Thornley.

I went directly to New Orleans, so I imagine I arrived in New Orleans on September 3, possibly September 4.

Mr. Jenner.

So that between approximately May 1, 1963, and September 4 and 5-

Mr. Thornley.

Say May 3 to September 4.

Mr. Jenner.

You were not in New Orleans?

Mr. Thornley.

Right.

Mr. Jenner.

You were returning to your home in California? You stayed there for approximately a month or so?

Mr. Thornley.

Longer than that.

Mr. Jenner.

Longer than that. You then went to Mexico, Mexico City, and you then returned directly to New Orleans?

Mr. Thornley.

Yes, sir.

Mr. Jenner.

During none of that period of time did you have any contact with or hear anything about Oswald?

Mr. Thornley.

Definitely not.

Mr. Jenner.

You at one time at least were acquainted with a lady by the name of Sylvia Bortin?

Mr. Thornley.

Sylvia Bortin?

Mr. Jenner.

B-o-r-t-i-n.

Mr. Thornley.

Yes; this young lady, by the way.

Mr. Jenner.

Where did she reside?

Mr. Thornley.

In Whittier, Calif., or at least last summer she did, I don't know where she resides now. This young lady, by the way, was mentioned in--her mention in this whole matter came out of a misunderstanding on my part of a question asked by the FBI agents.

Mr. Jenner.

All right. Would you explain that, please?

Mr. Thornley.

I don't recall what the question was- oh, yes, he had asked me something about, I believe it was the First Unitarian Church in Los Angeles. I had mentioned earlier at the time I was talking to Oswald, and knew Oswald, I had been going to the First Unitarian Church in Los Angeles. This is a group of quite far to the left people politically for the most part, and mentioned in order to explain my political relationship with Oswald, at that moment, and he began to ask me questions about the First Unitarian Church and I answered, and then he realized or understood or asked what Oswald's connection with the First Unitarian Church was and I explained to him that there was none. Miss Bortin never knew Oswald and vice versa, and these people were two different parts of my life. There was this civilian compartment and the military compartment, and I never intermingled them.

Mr. Jenner.

This young lady married and her husband is now in Havana, Cuba?