Mr. Wilcox.

but was having difficulty in producing suitable identification for us to cash the draft. In that event, we would not have any message or record of message in our file locally.

Mr. Liebeler.

If I understand you correctly, Mr. Wilcox, the situation which you just described would occur when a money order telegram had been delivered to some party at some other office, some office other than the Dallas central office?

Mr. Wilcox.

That's right.

Mr. Liebeler.

And he would have the draft in his hand that would have been delivered to him by the telegraph company in some other office, and then he would come to the Dallas central office and attempt to cash that draft; is that correct?

Mr. Liebeler.

And Mr. Lewis said it is possible that the transaction with which he had such difficulty could have been a transaction such as the one we have described; is that correct?

Mr. Wilcox.

Yes, sir.

Mr. Liebeler.

In that event, you would not have any record of it in the Dallas office?

Mr. Wilcox.

No, sir.

Mr. Liebeler.

Is it correct that you would not have any record of it in the Dallas office even when the draft had been successfully cashed, as it apparently subsequently was in this case?

Mr. Wilcox.

No, sir.

Mr. Liebeler.

You would still not have any record of it?

Mr. Wilcox.

No, sir.

Mr. Liebeler.

Now, you have produced 11 money orders in the form of telegrams, transmitting money to individuals living at the YMCA here in Dallas. Is it correct that these are the only 11 telegrams which you were able to find addressed to the YMCA or to anyone at the YMCA during some period beginning on or about October 1963, and running up to approximately the end of November 1963?

Mr. Wilcox.

Yes, sir.

Mr. Liebeler.

Did you, yourself, personally authorize or instruct that the search be conducted which produced these telegrams?

Mr. Wilcox.

Yes, sir.

Mr. Liebeler.

That would have been a search through every single money order delivered through the Dallas office through the month of October or November, 1963, is that correct?

Mr. Wilcox.

Yes, sir.

Mr. Liebeler.

These 11 telegrams are the only 11 that were addressed to the YMCA?

Mr. Wilcox.

Yes.

Mr. Liebeler.

Now, the dates covered by the search would be October 1 through the 17th of November 1963? Or what was it, as best you can recall?

Mr. Wilcox.

The end of November, as I remember.

Mr. Liebeler.

Beginning when?

Mr. Wilcox.

Beginning the first part of October.

Mr. Liebeler.

It is a fact, is it not, that none of these 11 telegrams are addressed to Lee Harvey Oswald?

Mr. Wilcox.

No, sir; none of them are.

Mr. Liebeler.

Or to anybody using any of Mr. Oswald's known aliases?

Mr. Wilcox.

No, sir.

Mr. Liebeler.

I think that we had better, for the record, indicate the names of the people to whom these telegrams are addressed. There is a telegram dated October 4, 1963, addressed to George McMurray, transmitting $15, is that correct?

Mr. Liebeler.

There is also a telegram dated October 10, 1963, addressed to Michael C. Robinson, transmitting $100 to Mr. Robinson at the, YMCA is that correct?