I believe, if I were to pinpoint it, I would say it was between the 15th of October and November 1.

Mr. Jenner.

All right. Now, you said there was. to your recollection, an older lady with them?

Mr. Hutchison.

Yes, sir.

Mr. Jenner.

With these people? What would you judge her age to be?

Mr. Hutchison.

I would say she was somewhere between 50 and 60.

Mr. Jenner.

Would you describe her, please?

Mr. Hutchison.

Well, sir, she had on a small li'l ole hat and--uh--a fur coat. She had on a fur coat. And--nh--she said nothing. She just walks around.

Mr. Jenner.

What color was her hair?

Mr. Hutchison.

I couldn't say, sir; because she had this hat on. It was just the language---it was the tone and the language that he was speaking that attracted me.

Mr. Jenner.

And he was speaking in Russian?

Mr. Hutchison.

Yes. Well, it was----

Mr. Jenner.

Well, at least, in a foreign language that you couldn't understand?

Mr. Hutchison.

Yes; that's right.

Mr. Jenner.

Did the young lady say anything?

Mr. Hutchison.

Nothing. She said nothing.

Mr. Jenner.

Now--she was a young lady?

Mr. Hutchison.

Yes, sir.

Mr. Jenner.

What would you judge her age to be?

Mr. Hutchison.

I would say between 20 and 24.

Mr. Jenner.

And his age?

Mr. Hutchison.

Well, I'd say he looked--he at that time looked to be about 21 or 22.

Mr. Jenner.

He looked younger than she?

Mr. Hutchison.

Yes.

Mr. Jenner.

Do you recall whether the elderly lady did or did not wear spectacles--or glasses?

Mr. Hutchison.

She had glasses on. Yes, sir.

Mr. Jenner.

Were they a horn-rimmed type that I have and you have on?

Mr. Hutchison.

Yes, sir; yes, sir.

Mr. Jenner.

Can you recollect--is this the only occasion on which you saw him----

Mr. Hutchison.

With anyone?

Mr. Jenner.

With anyone at all?

Mr. Hutchison.

Yes, sir; the rest of the time, it was by himself.

Mr. Jenner.

During the course of their visiting that day, did you hear the elderly lady say anything?

Mr. Hutchison.

No, air.

Mr. Jenner.

And I think you said you did not hear the young lady say anything?

Mr. Hutchison.

No, sir; she said nothing.

Mr. Jenner.

And they were purchasing what you would call a---did you say a "full stock of groceries"?

Mr. Hutchison.

Yes, sir; yes, sir.

Mr. Jenner.

Would you describe for the record what you mean by a full stock of groceries?

Mr. Hutchison.

Well, a full stock of groceries is when they buy soap, soap powder, sugar, coffee, a few canned goods, milk, bread--say, a total of $15 to $20 worth of groceries is considered a bill of groceries.

Mr. Jenner.

Yes; and you recall that this occasion is what you have now described as a full stock of groceries?

Mr. Hutchison.

Yes, sir; a full stock bill of groceries.

Mr. Jenner.

Not only edibles, but things to apply in and about the home?

Mr. Hutchison.

About the house the home; yes, sir.

Mr. Jenner.

And .they were in your store, I take it then, for----