Mr. Shasteen.

Possibly; yes, sir.

Mr. Jenner.

Could it have been 2 to 3 months prior?

Mr. Shasteen.

I don't believe so, not when he had the shoes on, the house shoes on that morning, because the thing that made me remember that was the fact that it seemed like I'd found something he agreed with me on. He even smiled about this; you know, he had a good look on his face when I complimented his house shoes.

Mr. Jenner.

What time of day was this?

Mr. Shasteen.

Oh, it was probably 6:45 in the morning.

Mr. Jenner.

It was a Saturday morning?

Mr. Shasteen.

Yes, sir.

Mr. Jenner.

Do you recall telling Agent Berry that when he interviewed you on the 3d of December 1963, that your faint recollection of Oswald was when he appeared in the shop, your shop on a Saturday, "2 or 3 months ago at 6:30 in the morning," when you had just opened your shop?

Mr. Shasteen.

Yes, sir. The first time I remember him was early one morning.

Mr. Jenner.

And that you remembered him particularly because on this particular occasion he was wearing house shoes which you considered out of the ordinary?

Mr. Shasteen.

Now, he wore house shoes every time he come over there in the mornings. I think he may have that a little bit crossed there when he and I talked about it.

Mr. Jenner.

And that you also said you had commented to Oswald concerning the house shoes and suggested that they must be quite expensive and Oswald said, "No; not where I bought them," and you stated that he said he had purchased the shoes in Old Mexico for only a dollar and a half?

Mr. Shasteen.

Right.

Mr. Jenner.

Now, you will notice there is an inconsistency there you were firm that the house shoes incident occurred 2 to 3 weeks prior to November 8, but in reporting this to Agent Berry on the 3d of December, you stated it occurred 2 to 3 months prior thereto.

Mr. Shasteen.

I believe to tell you the truth, I think in the round of the talking, I think he just taken that for granted. I don't believe on that morning--what we were talking about when I said what made me remember it--like even the night when I saw his picture on television and all, was the fact that that's the only time, about his house shoes, is the only time he ever was agreeable I'll put it that way, in other words, but he didn't talk much then. In other words, when that was over he just hushed.

Mr. Jenner.

This hasn't been called to your attention, but is it your testimony then, as I understand it, that you are firm that the incident occurred 2 to 3 weeks prior to November 8 rather than 2 to 3 months and you think Agent Berry misinterpreted it?

Mr. Shasteen.

He either misinterpreted what I said----

Mr. Jenner.

Or jumped to a conclusion?

Mr. Shasteen.

Yes.

Mr. Jenner.

Would you describe these coveralls a little bit further--they were full length?

Mr. Shasteen.

Yes, sir.

Mr. Jenner.

Did they zipper or button down the front?

Mr. Shasteen.

Well, that I wouldn't--you know, to make a statement to say I knew, I wouldn't say, but I would almost-say that they buttoned. At least they had a button at the top.

Mr. Jenner.

And did he normally have them buttoned up to the top, or did he have them open at the throat?

Mr. Shasteen.

Yes; he had them open, but another thing--you know--there are little things, like we get to thinking about now--I know that these old coveralls-he wore them like that [indicating].

Mr. Jenner.

He wore them with the collar up?

Mr. Shasteen.

Yes; and just flopping out.

Mr. Jenner.

And you remember one occasion when the coveralls, while they were long sleeved, somebody had sheared off the sleeves on a particular pair?