Mr. Shasteen.

Yes; that's what I said--I saw him and two ladies get out and go in the store.

Mr. Jenner.

On how many occasions did you see that?

Mr. Shasteen.

Well, I was trying to think of that coming over here and I know of twice and one of the times that I'm saying--it was the next morning after he had gotten a haircut the night I went to the football game, the next morning they were over to the store. You see, I open up early around 7 in the morning and it was 8 o'clock, or so, not knowing the exact hour. I would say it was 8 o'clock or 8:30 when they were over at the store that Saturday morning.

Mr. Jenner.

That would be the 9th of November?

Mr. Shasteen.

Yes; because. one reason it made me remember that, I had just come back--I had just come back from across the street to get some cigarettes and they come up and pulled in and I walked over and naturally I looked back across the street and I saw them getting out and he wasn't driving at that time. I will agree but whenever I saw him come with somebody else in the car he wasn't driving, but occasionally he drove himself up there to get a haircut and Mr. Odum says, "Now, that contradicts with some of the other information." I said, "I can't help what it contradicts with, that's just the fact and that's it."

Mr. Jenner.

Was there ever an occasion when you saw him driving up that he had the 14-year-old boy-with him?

Mr. Shasteen.

Yes; the night he got the haircut.

Mr. Jenner.

The night of November 8?

Mr. Shasteen.

Yes; you see the difficulty was, I was wanting to get out of giving a haircut and I had just gotten through with a guy, and I was trying to get my tools put up and they pulled up in front and I kind of left them half cocked, half cleaned up, and I ran back in the closet to try to get away, because I saw there was two of them, you see, and I figured they both would want a haircut. When they pulled up with the headlights and I saw two get out I figured they both would want a haircut.

Mr. Jenner.

This was night, was it?

Mr. Shasteen.

Yes.

Mr. Jenner.

And it was dark?

Mr. Shasteen.

Well, yes; it was done dark outside I couldn't tell who they were when they drove up but he was driving that night and I was hurrying trying to get out and I went out the back door, because ordinarily, if there had been two, one of them would have wanted me to cut his hair and the other one would want the other boy to, and I thought, well, maybe they can wait and let me go to the football game. It's hard for me to get away for a football game and that night was when the boy was with him and he drove up there.

Mr. Jenner.

Do you recall being interviewed by FBI Agent Berry on the 3d of December?

Mr. Shasteen.

Yes, sir. And he is from Oklahoma, I believe. He came on the 4th, I mean on the 2d, and came back on the 3d.

Mr. Jenner.

Now, do you recall saying at that time that you had a recollection that he had been at your shop for the purpose of obtaining a haircut for the past 2 or 3 months?

Mr. Shasteen.

Yes, sir.

Mr. Jenner.

And when was the occasion in point of time that this business respecting the yellow shoes occurred--how far prior to that?

Mr. Shasteen.

In other words on the 8th there, he got a haircut on a Friday night.

Mr. Jenner.

Yes.

Mr. Shasteen.

And I would say it was 2 or 3 weeks before that on Saturday morning, because I was the only one in the shop and he was the first one there that morning.

Mr. Jenner.

On reflection, you fix it as 2 to 3 weeks on a Saturday morning prior to November 8?

Mr. Shasteen.

Right.

Mr. Jenner.

That would take us ,back to--that would be either the 25th of October or the 18th of October?