Mr. Jenner.

All right you have handed me three cards from the original records of the downtown YMCA--they are three sheets.

Mr. Barnhorst.

Written on both sides.

Mr. Jenner.

Yes; written on both sides. I will mark them commencing with the earliest date on the exhibits, as Hulen Exhibits Nos. 9, 10, and 11. Would you identify the sheets? What are they, what kind of record?

Mr. Barnhorst.

They are original ledger sheets for a transient guest and they are for the purpose of recording temporarily that the registrar has paid certain fees, because oftentimes they lose their receipts. They come down and we copy into this register--which is placed in a file, the amount that they paid. It is to guarantee that there is no confusion on the amount that is paid.

Mr. Jenner.

And do these three register cards that I have in my hand cover all the month of October 1963?

Mr. Barnhorst.

No, sir; they don't.

Mr. Jenner.

I'm sorry, do they cover the month of October 1962?

Mr. Barnhorst.

I don't know whether they do--I doubt it--I think they would only cover the days before and after the time which you are interested in. They cover from October---October 15th through October 19th.

Mr. Jenner.

May I call your attention to the last of the cards, which is marked Hulen Exhibit No. 11, the first entry on which is dated October 2, 1963, and that is for 1963, I'm sure?

Mr. Barnhorst.

Yes; the 1962 cards, marked Hulen Exhibits Nos. 9 and 10, respectively, run from October 15th through October 19th.

Mr. Jenner.

And they consist of two sheets?

Mr. Barnhorst.

Yes.

Mr. Jenner.

In selecting these two sheets covering the 15th through the 19th, did you examine the ledger sheets for the balance of the month?

Mr. Barnhorst.

No, sir; Mr. McRee did.

Mr. Jenner.

Mr. McRee did so?

Mr. Barnhorst.

And he told me those are the only cards that have Mr. Oswald's name on them.

Mr. Jenner.

So, they were selected from the ledger cards for October 1963, those which .had some entry thereon with respect to Oswald?

Mr. Barnhorst.

Yes. It was done by the receipt numbers, also.

Mr. Jenner.

It was doublechecked, so that there appears a--on the third line of the 1962, card commencing with October 15th, an entry under date of October 15th, reciting item No.. 18198 and the name, "Oswald," and $2.25 and under the column, "balance," there is a strike line, and--indicating nothing due.

Mr. Barnhorst.

Pardon me, that balance is not used for the purpose of something due. We substitute for that a membership fee. That strike line means he did not have a membership fee.

Mr. Jenner.

There is a similar entry for the 16th, the 17th, and the 18th. These records then are for the recording of the fact that Oswald was a guest on those days, and that he paid the amounts of money recorded on the ledger sheets, which in turn correspond with the receipts which Mr. Hulen brought in?

Mr. Barnhorst.

Yes, sir.

Mr. Jenner.

The third of these ledger sheets -the first entry is opposite a date in 1963--October 2, 1963. I take it this ledger sheet was selected from among all of the ledger sheets for the month of October 1963, because it records the name Oswald on October 3, 1963, item• No. 15593, $2.25--is that correct?

Mr. Barnhorst.

Yes. I have seen all of. the ledger sheets for October 1963.

Mr. Jenner.

And this is the only one that has any entry on it with respect to Oswald?

Mr. Barnhorst.

That's the only one.

Mr. Jenner.

And that one entry that does have, corresponds with the. receipt on that date, produced by Mr. Hulen?

Mr. Barnhorst.

Yes.

Mr. Jenner.

May we have these photostated and then returned to you or did you make photostats?

Mr. Barnhorst.

We do not keep this for any great length of time. Mr. McRee said we might turn this over to you.

Mr. Jenner.

Thank you very much.

Mr. Barnhorst.

As with all of the records.