Mr. Glover.

The Cubans were really treated well and given everything they wanted, and lots of girls for them, and the girls all fell for the Cubans, as it were, you know.

Mr. Jenner.

Did Oswald express views with respect to Castro and the Cubans?

Mr. Glover.

I could not remember any specific view about them, but I got the impression from his description of the Cubans who were there, that he might have been trying to create the impression that the Cubans were very much accepted by the Russians. Apparently, in all this conversation, I believe he was being very cagey about making statements, but he would give the impression that these people must have been pretty nice. They were being treated so by the Russians. Actually, he gave it as a matter of fact that they were being treated very well. I don't remember him having said anything specifically about his liking or not liking the Cubans or Castro.

Mr. Jenner.

Anything else that occurred that evening with respect to conversation and his political views and life in Russia that you now recall?

Mr. Glover.

No; I don't think there is anything that I recall right at the moment.

Mr. Jenner.

Did Mrs. Paine take part in these discussions?

Mr. Glover.

Yes; she talked to both Oswald and she talked to his wife very much.

Mr. Jenner.

When she talked to Marina in what language did she speak?

Mr. Glover.

Well, I believe what she said, she said in Russian. I don't believe Marina was able to converse in English.

Mr. Jenner.

Did she translate for Marina?

Mr. Glover.

Yes; I believe she did.

Mr. Jenner.

Did Oswald translate for her?

Mr. Glover.

Marina, I cannot be sure about that. I don't remember that he did.

Mr. Jenner.

This was in a house or in an apartment?

Mr. Glover.

It was in a house.

Mr. Jenner.

Did the women kind of move around and the men gather together, or would, as sometimes happens at meetings of this nature, were you all gathered generally in the same room or the same general vicinity and everybody take part in the social intercourse and interplay?

Mr. Glover.

Well, I don't remember any particular pattern. The only person who would talk very much to Marina was Ruth Paine, because she was the only woman.

Mr. Jenner.

What about the De Mohrenschildts? Did they just drop in and leave right away?

Mr. Glover.

They stayed a very brief time.

Mr. Jenner.

Did the De Mohrenschildts take part? There wasn't anybody other than Mrs. Paine, or possibly Lee Oswald, to translate for Marina, is that a fair statement?

Mr. Glover.

That's right. The De Mohrenschildts did not come in at the beginning of the evening. They came sometime, if I remember, around 9 o'clock and stayed a short while and left.

Mr. Jenner.

Did your guests press Oswald as to his political views?

Mr. Glover.

Yes; he had been in Russia. He didn't think very much of that. He didn't think much of the United States' system, but what it was about the system, he didn't know.

Mr. Jenner.

In other words, they pressed him so they backed him in a corner, to use the vernacular, and he had no real answers?

Mr. Glover.

That's right. I think they ascertained that pretty well.

Mr. Jenner.

He just reiterated, "I am a Marxist," or "I believe in communism," or I have these ideals, but I haven't found the ideal site anywhere?
So far, that is a fairly general statement?

Mr. Glover.

I think so.

Mr. Jenner.

Since I said so much about it, is there anything you want to elaborate on in that connection?

Mr. Glover.

No; I think what you said I agree to, that he was essentially more on the defensive. They asked him, as I just stated, what is the answer, and he essentially stated he didn't know the answer.