Mrs. Tobias.

Well, I let her come in, I was going to tell you, and she was, oh, a dark lady. She said she was Russian. I talked to her awhile.

Mr. Jenner.

Was she dark-skinned or light-skinned?

Mrs. Tobias.

Well, she wasn't a blonde, she was a brunette--she was a real nice looking woman.

Mr. Jenner.

She was white-skinned, however?

Mrs. Tobias.

Oh, yes.

Mr. Jenner.

About how old?

Mrs. Tobias.

Oh, perhaps 35 and maybe a little older.

Mr. Jenner.

How tall was she?

Mrs. Tobias.

Oh, about 5 foot 3 or 5 foot 4 inches.

Mr. Jenner.

And what did you judge she weighed?

Mrs. Tobias.

"Well, she had a coat on--I don't know--I just don't really know. She wasn't real large but she wasn't real small and she said Mrs. Oswald had called her earlier in the day and 'said that the baby was sick and she didn't have any money to take the baby to the doctor, and she couldn't get them to the door, she sat in there and talked to us a while and lily husband says he just doesn't remember this--this was after he had his accident, because his memory was pretty bad after he had had this accident and I asked her if she would like to have me go over with her and see if we could get in, and she said, "I would, because I rang the doorbell and I rang the doorbell, and I can't get them to the door." And, I said, "Okay, I'll go over with you." I didn't rap on the door, I just kept .ringing the doorbell. Well, now, he didn't come out the front door.

Mr. Jenner.

Which door were you rapping on? The rear or the front door?

Mrs. Tobias.

I was ringing in the hallway, the front--I didn't rap on the door--I just rang the doorbell. We have doorbells. Now, he didn't come out in the hall entrance, he came around.

Mr. Jenner.

Who did?

Mrs. Tobias.

Mr. Oswald.

Mr. Jenner.

He came around from the back?

Mrs. Tobias.

Yes; he came out of the back door and around and jumped in the hall, and I said, "Mr. Oswald, this lady is trying to find you people. You didn't answer." He said, "Oh, I'll take care of it." And he ushered her right inside and that's the last I seen.

Mr. Jenner.

Did she recognize him?

Mrs. Tobias.

I guess she did, because he just took her--they had nothing to say to each other in the hall. He just said, "Oh, I'll take care of it."

Mr. Jenner.

No words passed between them?

Mrs. Tobias.

No; he just came from around.

Mr. Jenner.

When she came to your place, did she identify herself as--who she was and where she worked--did she work in the Dallas area?

Mrs. Tobias.

She worked downtown in an office.

Mr. Jenner.

She said she worked downtown in an office?

Mrs. Tobias.

Yes; and she said she was going to see if she could help.

Mr. Jenner.

Did you ever see that lady again?

Mrs. Tobias.

I never seen her again and then, as I say, I seen a blonde-headed girl come there.

Mr. Jenner.

Was this later?

Mrs. Tobias.

This was after she was there and she wanted to know which apartment, and I showed her, and that's all I ever seen of her.

Mr. Jenner.

Describe that lady, please; she was a blonde?

Mrs. Tobias.

Well, she was pretty slim.

Mr. Jenner.

She was slender, was she?

Mrs. Tobias.

Yes; she was kind of thin.

Mr. Jenner.

How tall was she?

Mrs. Tobias.

Oh, perhaps 5 foot 1 or 5 foot 2--maybe 3 inches.

Mr. Jenner.

Not as tall as the first lady you described?

Mrs. Tobias.

Well, they could have been somewhere near the same height, but she was a different type.

Mr. Jenner.

She was a different type person?