Mr. Jenner.

How old was this man?

Mrs. Tobias.

Gee, I don't know.

Mr. Jenner.

What is your judgment?

Mrs. Tobias.

Well, perhaps 50---50 1 would say or even in his late fifties.

Mr. Jenner.

Well, 50 and late fifties is a big difference.

Mrs. Tobias.

Well, maybe he was a little over 50 and maybe he was right around 50---he wasn't an old man.

Mr. Jenner.

He was 50 more or

Mrs. Tobias.

Yes----it would have been--that's what I thought.

Mr. Jenner.

All right. How was he dressed?

Mrs. Tobias.

With a brown--he had on a brown suit.

Mr. Jenner.

Was he neatly dressed?

Mrs. Tobias.

Yes; he was.

Mr. Jenner.

He didn't have slacks

Mrs. Tobias.

Well, I think that was a suit--I think that was a suit.

Mr. Jenner.

He didn't wear shorts.

Mrs. Tobias.

Oh, no.

Mr. Jenner.

How did he act?

Mrs. Tobias.

Well, what he said--he walked out in the hallway, and I said, "What's coming off?" because I knew somebody was moving so, I didn't see Mrs. Oswald at all, now, but Oswald walked out the door and this fellow walked out in the hall and he was the one that met me and he said, "Well, Mrs. Oswald is going away for awhile moving out for awhile."

Mr. Jenner.

Did he say anything about whether Mr. Oswald was going to remain?

Mrs. Tobias.

That's all that was said and I went on home.

Mr. Jenner.

Did you see her?

Mrs. Tobias.

No, I didn't see Mrs. Oswald at all, and I don't know when they moved out.

Mr. Jenner.

Did they all move out or just Marina?

Mrs. Tobias.

That's all he said--he just said, "Mrs. Oswald is going away for awhile or moving out for awhile."

Mr. Jenner.

Did it come to your attention that she had moved?

Mrs. Tobias.

I didn't see her around--that's true, I didn't see her around.

Mr. Jenner.

Did you see him around, that is, Mr. Oswald?

Mrs. Tobias.

No; because I think he used that back entrance because I really do think he must have used that back entrance because you didn't see him much, not even when Mrs. Oswald was there, only when you see them go out together.

Mr. Jenner.

Now, this was in the month of November?

Mrs. Tobias.

It would have to have been.

Mr. Jenner.

And it was something up to November 27--did he pay his rent for the month of December?

Mrs. Tobias.

Oh, yes; it's all here.

Mr. Jenner.

All right; let's look at it.

Mrs. Tobias.

Which one do we have now--which one is this?

Mr. Jenner.

That's November.

Mrs. Tobias.

Well, you want all the way down---don't you?

Mr. Jenner.

Give me the next one---that would be December--maybe I can help you with this.

Mrs. Tobias.

This is the deposit and the rent there.

Mr. Jenner.

This is the initial payment--now, I will look for December.

Mrs. Tobias.

All right, here it is---starting here.

Mr. Jenner.

You have a receipt No. 0154 in your book of original receipts here, dated December 6, 1962, reciting, "Received from L. H. Oswald--$68 for rental of apartment No. 2, from December 3, 1962, to January 3, 1963. Paid in cash. Signed by Mrs. M. F. Tobias, Sr."

Mrs. Tobias.

That's when I had to take over.

Mr. Jenner.

That's your signature?

Mrs. Tobias.

That is right--after my husband was sick.

Mr. Jenner.

Did he pay that to you in cash?

Mrs. Tobias.

Yes; he did--he never gave checks.