there. here was no adverse condition in the relations between Oswald and myself which could have prompted Oswald to leave the apartment.
Signed on May 20, 1964, at For t Worth Tex.
(S)Chester Allen Riggs, Jr.,
CHESTER ALLEN RIGGS, Jr.
Mrs. Mahlon F. Tobias
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Testimony of Mrs. Mahlon F. Tobias

The testimony of Mrs. Mahlon F. Tobias was taken at 3 p.m., on April 2, 1964, in the office of the U.S. attorney, 301 Post Office Building, Bryan and Ervay Streets, Dallas, Tex., by Mr. Albert E. Jenner, Jr., assistant counsel of the President's Commission.

Mr. Jenner.

Mrs. Tobias, would you rise and take the oath?
Do you solemnly swear that the testimony you will give before this Commission will be the truth, the whole truth, and nothing but the truth, so help you God?

Mrs. Tobias.

I do.

Mr. Jenner.

You are Mrs. M. F. Tobias?

Mrs. Tobias.

That's right.

Mr. Jenner.

Of 602 Elsbeth?

Mrs. Tobias.

That's right.

Mr. Jenner.

Dallas, Tex.

Mrs. Tobias.

That's right.

Mr. Jenner.

What does that "M" stand for?

Mrs. Tobias.

Mahlon [spelling] M-a-h-i-o-n, and the "F" is Forrest [spelling] F-o-r-r-e-s-t.

Mr. Jenner.

Mrs. Tobias, I am Albert E. Jenner, Jr., a member of the legal staff of the President's Commission. My file indicates that you and Mr. Tobias received a letter from Mr. Rankin,.the general counsel of this Commission?

Mrs. Tobias.

Yes; we did.

Mr. Jenner.

With which was enclosed a copy of the Senate joint resolution authorizing the creation of the Commission and of President Lyndon Johnson's Executive order creating the Commission, and also a copy of the rules and regulations of the Commission?

Mrs. Tobias.

That's right.

Mr. Jenner.

I'm sure you have noted from those documents that the Commission is appointed to investigate and look into circumstances surrounding the assassination of our late President, John Fitzgerald Kennedy?

Mrs. Tobias.

That's right.

Mr. Jenner.

And this leads us from time to time to seek information and help from people who had some contact here and there with persons who went across the scene, so to speak, the stage---one of whom was Lee Harvey Oswald, and we understand that in the ordinary course of your own life you had some contact with him--you and Mr. Tobias.

Mrs. Tobias.

With Mr. Oswald--that's right. We are managers of the apartment house that's right.

Mr. Jenner.

And we would like to ask you a few questions about that, if I may?

Mrs. Tobias.

Okay; I will be glad to help you all I can.

Mr. Jenner.

That is wonderful and I appreciate that very much. Would you give me just a little bit of your history?

Mrs. Tobias.

My history--what do you mean?

Mr. Jenner.

Are you a native American, and where were you born and so forth?

Mrs. Tobias.

Yes; I was born in Arkansas. I have lived in Dallas, Tex., 12 years, but I have been all over the United States. I raised my family in Michigan. I married in Michigan.

Mr. Jenner.

What town in Michigan?