Mr. Jenner.

Did you feel you got through to him?

Mr. Oswald.

No, sir; I was not.

Mr. Jenner.

And would you elaborate, please, on your expression "I was not talking to the Lee I knew"?

Mr. Oswald.

I was referring more specifically to the first part of our conversation, where his conversation seemed to me, as previously stated, very mechanical.

Mr. Jenner.

You had the feeling he was not exposing himself fully to you?

Mr. Oswald.

That is correct.

Mr. Jenner.

Was this the last time you ever saw your brother?

Mr. Oswald.

Alive, sir?

Mr. Jenner.

Yes.

Mr. Oswald.

Yes, sir; it was.

Mr. Jenner.

On page 14 you record a later conversation after you had left your brother--you have an expression there along the lines that you agreed with someone that if the conversation had been person to person, that things might have been different. Do you find that?

Mr. Oswald.

Yes, sir; I do.

Mr. Jenner.

Would you please elaborate on what you meant by that?

Mr. Oswald.

By "we" in that paragraph, sir, on page 14, I am talking about • Mr. Tom Kelley, Inspector from Washington, D.C., United States Secret Service, and agent, Mr. Mike Howard.
Our discussion was of the nature I related to them as best I could remember my entire conversation with Lee Harvey Oswald on that afternoon of November 23, 1963, and I was of the opinion, or perhaps expressed, either by Mr. Kelley or Mr. Mike Howard, that had we been placed in a room facing each other, perhaps more could have been learned or something could have been learned about whether or not he was actually guilty or how much he was involved in the assassination of the President of the United States.

Mr. Jenner.

Could I elaborate on that? If you talked person to person to him in a room, in which there was assurance there was no bugging, nobody listening to your conversation, that you might have been able to obtain more information from him?

Mr. Oswald.

That is correct.

Mr. Jenner.

Is that a fair summary?

Mr. Oswald.

That is, sir.

Mr. Jenner.

If you wish him to elaborate or expand or amend that, Mr. McKenzie, it is perfectly all right with me.

Mr. Mckenzie.

No--that is all right.

Mr. Jenner.

Does Mr. Oswald wish to elaborate?

Mr. Oswald.

No, sir; I do not.

Mr. Jenner.

Mr. Chairman, I have concluded my examination.
On behalf of myself and the staff, I express to Mr. Oswald and to Mr. McKenzie our appreciation for the splendid cooperation that we have received, and the frank and direct answers that the witness has given to all of the questions I have put to him.

Mr. Mckenzie.

Thank you, sir.

Mr. Dulles.

I am very glad that was put on the record. I entirely share it for the Commission.

Mr. Oswald.

If I could, possibly, sir, at this time----

Mr. Jenner.

Would you like to add anything?

Mr. Oswald.

I would like to make one little statement in regard to my memorandum, on page 12.

Mr. Jenner.

Proceed.

Mr. Oswald.

In relation or reference to my intentions at that time, as it is now, as recorded on page 12, "Intentions then as now was to find out the truth and nothing else."
Thank you.

Mr. Dulles.

Thank you.
I have one question, only one.
You testified, I believe, yesterday that when you met your brother at the airport,