Mr. Jenner.

To orient you and the Commission, the entry to which I refer, that is the paragraph, reads as follows. Follow me, please.
"Mother and I talked briefly and after about 30 minutes we were taken across the hall to where Marina and the two children were. (This was the first I knew of the new baby.) A Mrs. Paine was also present. We talked a little and shortly Mr. Paine--who the police had been talking to, came out of the office and Mrs. Paine introduced us. I did not like the appearance of Mr. Paine, nothing really to put my finger on, but I just had a feeling.
"I still do not know why or how"what is that next word?

Mr. Oswald.

"but".

Mr. Jenner.

"But Mr. and Mrs. Paine are somehow involved in this affair. Shortly thereafter Mother, Marina, and the children and the Paines left to go to the Paines' house in Irving, and I advised them I would stay there and see them tomorrow."
When you recorded "I would stay there" you mean remain in Dallas? What did you mean?

Mr. Oswald.

My full meaning there, sir, was that I would remain at the Dallas police station, and take a hotel room in Dallas, and spend the night.

Mr. Jenner.

Now----

Mr. Dulles.

May I ask just one question there for clarity? It refers to an office. Is that the office of the Dallas police?

Mr. Oswald.

Yes, sir; that is correct.

Mr. Dulles.

The Dallas police station?

Mr. Oswald.

Yes, sir.

Mr. Jenner.

I take it from this entry you had not heretofore ever met either Mr. or Mrs. Paine?

Mr. Oswald.

That is correct.

Mr. Jenner.

And would you elaborate upon, please, your statement recorded on December 6, 1963, that you did not like the appearance of Mr. Paine "nothing really to put my finger on, but I just had a feeling. I still do not know why or how, but Mr. and Mrs. Paine are somehow involved in this affair."

Mr. Oswald.

Well, I was introduced to Mr. Paine at the Dallas police office on the night of November 22, 1963. His wife introduced us. His handshake was very weak and what I might term a live fish handshake.

Mr. Jenner.

Live or dead?

Mr. Oswald.

And his general appearance, his face, and most particularly his eyes to me had what I would term a distant look to them, and that he wasn't really looking at you when he was.

Mr. Mckenzie.

Mr. Jenner, if you will, please, would you ask the witness whether he meant a live fish or a cold dead fish.

Mr. Oswald.

Sir, I believe I mean a live fish. A cold, dead fish would be stiff.

Mr. Mckenzie.

All right.

Mr. Jenner.

We are seeking to obtain the basis upon which you made this entry.

Mr. Oswald.

It was Mr. Paine's general appearance and the manner in which he held himself, and by this I mean the way he stood and the way he looked at yon, and you had that feeling, as I stated before, that he was not really looking at you.

Mr. Dulles.

You say there that Mrs. Paine introduced Mr. Paine to you. When had you previously made the acquaintance of Mrs. Paine just before this?

Mr. Oswald.

Yes sir; that is correct.

Mr. Dulles.

On that same day?

Mr. Oswald.

Yes, sir; that is correct.

Mr. Jenner.

And you record that in your memorandum, do you not, on a previous page?

Mr. Oswald.

Yes sir; I do.

Mr. Jenner.

The fact of the introduction?

Mr. Oswald.

Yes sir; I do so.

Mr. Jenner.

I think the Commission would be interested further in explaining your remark "I still do not know why or how, but Mr. and Mrs. Paine are somehow involved in this affair." What did you mean by that? That is on page 6.