Mr. Krystinik.

I would say yes. I don't know about President Kennedy in general, how he felt, but in reference to the civil rights issue, the impression I had was that he was favorably impressed by Mr. Kennedy.

Mr. Liebeler.

Did Oswald express his attitude toward any other government official, during the course of his conversation with you?

Mr. Krystinik.

I can't really remember. I have heard Michael Paine comment that Oswald had at one time written a letter and left it laying around the house, and that his wife, Ruth, had found this letter. It was in the typewriter. I can't remember exactly the details, but that he had referred to the notorious FBI. Apparently he didn't care for the FBI.

Mr. Liebeler.

Did Michael tell you that before or after the assassination?

Mr. Krystinik.

It was after.

Mr. Liebeler.

It was after?

Mr. Krystinik.

Yes, sir.

Mr. Liebeler.

Prior to the time of the assassination, however, you had no feeling that Oswald had any particular hostility toward any government official or toward the government in general? Would that be a fair statement?

Mr. Krystinik.

I can't really say because I don't know the exact time sequence. After a little time is passed, it is hard to pin it down.
Michael and I discussed the man at length after the assassination, and we talked about him a whole lot, so I don't really know whether it was before or after, but I now feel that he was very definitely against all enforcement people in general, and I don't know exactly when this impression came to me. But if I didn't already have this impression beforehand, I certainly had it afterwards.
I do know that beforehand, that he didn't get along with his employers and his fellow workers, or at least his employers, and he wasn't able to keep a job, and he didn't have respect for his employers, and this might possibly extend to law enforcement officials.

Mr. Liebeler.

Do you feel that Oswald was, in general resentful of authority? There was resentment of his employers?

Mr. Krystinik.

According to Michael, talking to him, we didn't talk about specifics, it was strictly generalities. It was 15 minutes that I talked to him, or 15 minutes or so that I talked to him.

Mr. Liebeler.

Is this meeting that you had with Oswald in the ACLU, the only meeting you ever had with Oswald?

Mr. Krystinik.

That was the only time I saw him up until I saw him on television.

Mr. Liebeler.

And your impressions are based upon your conversation with him during that time at the ACLU meeting?

Mr. Krystinik.

Based on that and what Michael and I have discussed in reference to him.

Mr. Liebeler.

In the course of the conversation with Oswald at the ACLU meeting, did he tell you that he was a Marxist?

Mr. Krystinik.

Yes. It seems to me that I commented to him that, "You are a Communist and I am a Capitalist," and I can't remember exactly what it was, but he corrected me and he said, "I am a Marxist." When I addressed him as a Communist, he said, "I am a Marxist."

Mr. Liebeler.

He corrected you then when you said he was a Communist and indicated he was not a Communist?

Mr. Krystinik.

Yes.

Mr. Liebeler.

Did you ask him what the difference was between those theories?

Mr. Krystinik.

No; I don't remember having asked him that.

Mr. Liebeler.

And he didn't elaborate on that?

Mr. Krystinik.

No.

Mr. Liebeler.

Did Oswald tell you----

Mr. Krystinik.

Oh, excuse me, there was one other thing that I, at the time when he commented on the capitalistic system exploiting the worker, I came back at him with the idea, you mean to tell me in Russia they don't exploit, that the State doesn't exploit the worker, and he stated that it is worse than here. He did say that.

Mr. Liebeler.

That the exploitation of the worker was worse in Russia than it is in the United States?