Mr. Liebeler.

Do you solemnly swear to tell the truth, the whole truth, and nothing but the truth, so help you God?

Mr. Paine.

I do.

Mr. Liebeler.

We have asked you to come here so we can take your deposition to find out some of the background information that you have about Lee Harvey Oswald as a result of your knowing him throughout part of 1963, up to the time of the assassination.
We particularly want to ask you this afternoon about your knowledge of the possible possession by Lee Harvey Oswald of the weapon that was allegedly used to assassinate the President, or of any other weapon at the time while he had some of his effects stored as we understand it in your garage in Texas.
I also want to inquire of you this afternoon concerning your knowledge of Lee Oswald's financial affairs, whether you have lent him any money or whether he ever, he or his wife ever, obtained any money through you or your wife, and we will also ask you about other matters relating to the general subject of the assassination and the subsequent death of Lee Harvey Oswald.
I want to go first, Mr. Paine, to the period September of 1963, but before I do that, will you state your name for the record.

Mr. Paine.

Michael Paine.

Mr. Liebeler.

What is your address?

Mr. Paine.

2515 West Fifth, Irving, Tex.

Mr. Liebeler.

By whom are you employed?

Mr. Paine.

Bell Helicopter.

Mr. Liebeler.

Where are they located?

Mr. Paine.

Fort Worth, Tex.

Mr. Liebeler.

Did you ever make the acquaintance of Lee Harvey Oswald?

Mr. Paine.

Yes.

Mr. Liebeler.

Would you tell us briefly the circumstances under which that occurred?

Mr. Paine.

My wife invited Lee and his wife over to supper one evening.

Mr. Liebeler.

Will you tell us approximately when that was?

Mr. Paine.

I think it was in April.

Mr. Liebeler.

Of 1963?

Mr. Paine.

Yes; I have depended upon my wife for all the dates. She has kept a calendar.

Mr. Liebeler.

Did you discuss with your wife the, after the assassination the, approximate time when you first met the Oswalds?

Mr. Paine.

Yes, yes, we did. Or at least she had to .report that to other people and I was listening in but I have forgotten the dates.

Mr. Liebeler.

Did your wife meet the Oswalds at the same time?

Mr. Paine.

No; she met them at a party that was held at a friend's house and we were invited to, both of us were invited to, go meet this couple who were represented as he having been an American who had defected to Russia, and came back with a Russian wife. I think I was sick or something and for some reason I couldn't go so I didn't meet him at that time.

Mr. Liebeler.

Can you tell us approximately when that was?

Mr. Paine.

It would be much more sensible to get all the exact dates from my wife but I think that was in February.

Mr. Liebeler.

1963?

Mr. Paine.

Yes.

Mr. Liebeler.

Now, after you first met Oswald, and we will go into the conversation that you had with him when you met him and after that more in detail to him before the Commission, when was the next time that you met him?

Mr. Paine.

I don't think I met him again until he joined Marina at our house in September or the beginning of October, I guess it was.

Mr. Liebeler.

Would you tell us briefly the circumstances surrounding the second meeting with Oswald?

Mr. Paine.

Well, Ruth had invited Marina to come and have her baby early in the summer when she knew that she was pregnant, to come have her baby, if she wished, at our house, where she would have the help of another woman who could speak Russian. Ruth stopped by from her visit on the east coast,