Mr. Jenner.

Ruth Paine Exhibit Nos. 275 and 276, for identification.)

Mr. Jenner.

Since we will have the exact physical exhibits we don't have to measure them, but perhaps for somebody who is reading the record, Mr. Howlett, your suggestion that we measure them is not a bad one. Let me describe the configuration of these rods. They are very light weight--what would you say that metal is, Mr. Howlett, tin--heavy tin?
Agent HOWLETT. Yes, sir.

Mr. Jenner.

They are the sliding or extension type, one fitting into the other when closed entirely, measuring from upended tip to upended tip they are----
Agent HOWLETT. The white one is 2 feet 3 1/2 inches.

Mr. Jenner.

And the cream colored one measured in the like fashion?
Agent HOWLETT. It is 2 feet 3 1/2 inches.

Mr. Jenner.

These curtain rods--the ends of each of them are turned. Those ends extending are turned up how many inches?
Agent HOWLETT. About 2 inches measuring from the inside of the curtain rod.

Mr. Jenner.

On the cream colored one, and what about the white one?
Agent HOWLETT. Yes; on the cream colored one and the white one measures about 2 1/2 inches.

Mr. Jenner.

Now, these curtain rods with the ends turned up form a "U," do they not, a long "U"?
Agent HOWLETT. Yes, sir.

Mr. Jenner.

Now, Mrs. Paine, we have only remaining the one other item to which you have called our attention and that is the correspondence between you and Marina Oswald subsequent to November 22, 1963.

Mrs. Paine.

Yes.

Mr. Jenner.

Have you been able to assemble that correspondence for me?

Mrs. Paine.

I appear only to have the translation.

Mr. Jenner.

I beg your pardon?

Mrs. Paine.

I appear only to have the translation.

Mr. Jenner.

You appear only to have the translation--will you explain that remark?

Mrs. Paine.

The correspondence you refer to is all by me, with the exception of one Christmas card from Marina.

Mr. Jenner.

When it is by you, you mean it is correspondence you transmitted to her and therefore you do not have the originals?

Mrs. Paine.

I thought I had the rough draft of what I wrote--I appear only to have a translation of that rough draft. I made a translation for several of these--I made a translation at the time and sent them off.

Mr. Jenner.

At the time you prepared the originals?

Mrs. Paine.

That's right.

Mr. Jenner.

May I have the translations?

Mrs. Paine.

Yes; you may.

Agent John Joe Howlett

Testimony of Agent John Joe Howlett

Mr. Jenner.

While we are doing that, Miss Oliver, since I have involved Agent Howlett in this deposition--Mr. Howlett, would you rise and be sworn and I will ask you some questions in connection with this deposition, and in that regard do you swear to tell the truth, the whole truth, and nothing but the truth, so help you God?
Agent HOWLETT. I do.

Mr. Jenner.

State your name, please?
Agent HOWLETT. John Joe Howlett.

Mr. Jenner.

And you are a member of the Secret Service of the United States?
Agent HOWLETT. Yes, sir; special agent.

Mr. Jenner.

In the Dallas office?
Agent HOWLETT. Yes, sir.

Mr. Jenner.

And you accompanied Miss Oliver and myself this evening, brought us out to Mrs. Paine's home?

Agent HOWLETT. Yes, sir.

Mr. Jenner.

And you have been present throughout my examination of Mrs.