Mrs. Paine.

found the light on. It is my impression he had been in it some time between the dinner hour and the time I entered.

Mr. Jenner.

Now, sitting as I am, in the dining room area of your kitchen dining room space--even if, as you have testified was the fact, that either you alone or you and Marina were washing the dishes and cleaning up at least after dinner, it would have been virtually impossible, wouldn't it, for anybody to have entered the garage without your noticing it, that is, entering from the kitchen-dining room area?

Mrs. Paine.

I would think so.

Mr. Jenner.

And, would that not be especially true if you were in the dining room portion of the kitchen-dining room area?

Mrs. Paine.

That would be unquestionably true---if you were in the kitchen-dining area at all.

Mr. Jenner.

But you were not, I gather, at all times that evening up to 9 o'clock, in the kitchen-dining room area; is that correct?

Mrs. Paine.

I was in the kitchen-dining area part of the time, occasionally, I would say.

Mr. Jenner.

Were your children retired when you went into the garage, at the time you went into the garage to lacquer your boxes?

Mrs. Paine.

Yes, they were.
Mr. JENNER. Had you put them to bed that evening?
Mrs. PAINE. Yes, I had spent probably close to an hour in bed preparations.

Mr. Jenner.

Now, during that period of time, Lee Oswald could have been in your garage without your knowing it?

Mrs. Paine.

I think it's likely--it would have been likely that I would know it then too.

Mr. Jenner.

Well, how would you have known it if you were in that bedroom which is in the northeast corner, which is as we have measured quite a good distance from the entrance to the garage? How could you necessarily have known it--that's the point I am making.

Mrs. Paine.

I could not necessarily have seen him enter. If I was fully in the room, my going to bed activities include being in the bathroom, coming into the kitchen, and going into the, living room.

Mr. Jenner.

Moving in and out?

Mrs. Paine.

Yes.

Mr. Jenner.

And I think I asked you during your testimony before the Commission--were you conscious during the period up to 9 o'clock that evening that Lee Oswald had been in the garage?

Mrs. Paine.

It is my--I recall the definite feeling that he had been in the garage. I can't recall seeing him go in.

Mr. Jenner.

Now, the police picked up some books, did they not, and other papers and things of which you were not aware at the time, you weren't present when they did that, is that correct?

Mrs. Paine.

Most of what they took I did not see.

Mr. Jenner.

I direct your attention to pages 144 to 147, inclusive, of a volume which has a paster on its front cover reading, "Affidavits and statements taken in connection with the assassination of the President," which I will state for the record was furnished me by the Dallas police this afternoon. Pages 144 through 147 are headed, "Literature" as having been found by the Dallas police either in the home of Mrs. Paine here in Irving, or in Lee Oswald's quarters on Beckley Street in Dallas.
Would you please examine that list, Mrs. Paine, and you will notice each page is headed "Name" and then the item is sought to be described, whether a letter, a book, an application, a pamphlet or a booklet, as the case might be.

The second column is headed "place found" and underneath that appears either the word "Irving" or the word "Beckley"?
Mrs. PAINE. Yes.

Mr. Jenner.

And there is a third column, headed "Microfilm," which indicates that the police has microfilmed each item and they give the microfilm number?

Mrs. Paine.

Yes.