Mrs. Paine.

Yes.

Mr. Jenner.

And the other is empty?

Mrs. Paine.

Yes.

Mr. Jenner.

John Joe, will you measure that which Mrs. Paine describes as a block and which I describe as a box?
Agent HOWLETT. It is 1/4 inch wide by 2 feet long.

Mr. Jenner.

How deep?
Agent HOWLETT. It is 7 1/2 inches deep, with 1/2 inch press plywood on the bottom, makes it a total height of 8 inches.

Mr. Jenner.

John Joe, is that which Mrs. Paine calls a block and I call a box, rectangular--it has a bottom, or at least it has a plate on one side and it is open on the top of it--the opposite side---is that not correct?
Agent HOWLETT. It is open on the top, yes. It is closed on the five sides and open on the top.

Mr. Jenner.

Mrs. Paine, just so we don't have any confusion in the record, is my description of this as being a box a fair description?

Mrs. Paine.

I will adopt it for our usage, for usage here.

Mr. Jenner.

You are setting apart your sensitivity about blocks here?

Mrs. Paine.

That's quite all right--I will call it a box.

Mr. Jenner.

And those two boxes or containers, you lacquered these that evening?

Mrs. Paine.

That evening.

Mr. Jenner.

How long did that take you?

Mrs. Paine.

About half an hour.

Mr. Jenner.

And where were you working?

Mrs. Paine.

I was using the top of the deep freeze as a work space. I had to walk from there to the work bench to get the lacquer and the brush.

Mr. Jenner.

Which end of the work bench, the south or the north end?

Mrs. Paine.

The north end.

Mr. Jenner.

Now, what time of the evening, and I take it it was the evening, am I correct?

Mrs. Paine.

Yes, sir; it was.

Mr. Jenner.

What time of the evening was it, approximately, when you entered the garage to lacquer the two boxes?

Mrs. Paine.

It was 9 o'clock or a little bit after.

Mr. Jenner.

Were the two boxes inside your home, and did you take them into the garage, or were they in the garage when you prepared to lacquer them?

Mrs. Paine.

My best recollection is that one was in the house and one was in the garage.

Mr. Jenner.

Well, where was the one in the garage located when you went into the garage to lacquer?

Mrs. Paine.

I don't recall.

Mr. Jenner.

It was not on top of the deep freeze, was it?

Mrs. Paine.

No; it's very likely it was in the central area.

Mr. Jenner.

Somewhere near the blanket wrapped package?

Mrs. Paine.

Somewhat near the saw.

Mr. Jenner.

The circular saw or the band saw?

Mrs. Paine.

The circular saw, I think, but I don't recall specifically.

Mr. Jenner.

All right. Now, when you did open the garage, the entrance to the garage----

Mrs. Paine.

You mean the overhead door?

Mr. Jenner.

No; the regular door into the garage.

Mrs. Paine.

Oh--that--yes, sir.
Mr. JENNER, Without offending you, Mrs. Paine, I assume that that door to the garage is normally--you are careful to keep it closed?

Mrs. Paine.

I am, indeed.

Mr. Jenner.

To the best of your recollection it was closed on this particular occasion?

Mrs. Paine.

Yes, it was.

Mr. Jenner.

You opened the door, did you?

Mrs. Paine.

Yes.