Mr. Jenner.

And you in turn--your back was to the overhead garage door, which was in place?

Mrs. Paine.

That's right.

Mr. Jenner.

And you were facing north?

Mrs. Paine.

Yes--I translated the question, asking Marina if she knew if Lee had a rifle, and she said, "Yes"--she had seen some time previously--seen a rifle which she knew to be his in this roll, which she indicated the blanket roll.

Mr. Jenner.

When she said that, did she point to the blanket roll?

Mrs. Paine.

She indicated to me in her language. My best recollection is that she did not point, so that I was the one who knew and then translated.

Mr. Jenner.

Now, she said she had seen a rifle in the blanket wrapped package?

Mrs. Paine.

Yes.

Mr. Jenner.

Which you had, already noticed some time prior thereto?

Mrs. Paine.

And as she described this, I stepped onto the blanket.

Mr. Jenner.

The wrapped package?

Mrs. Paine.

Yes; and then translated to the police officers what she had said.

Mr. Jenner.

And when you stepped on the blanket wrapped package, did you feel anything hard?

Mrs. Paine.

It seemed to me there was something hard in it.

Mr. Jenner.

At that time when you stepped on it?

Mrs. Paine.

At that time.

Mr. Jenner.

Did it seem like something hard in the sense of a rifle or a tent pole or anything as bulky as that?

Mrs. Paine.

I think I would say nothing as irregular as a rifle.

Mr. Jenner.

In any event, as I recall your testimony, one of the policemen stooped down and picked up the blanket wrapped package about in its center, having in mind its length?

Mrs. Paine.

That's right.

Mr. Jenner.

And when he did that, did the blanket remain firm and horizontal?

Mrs. Paine.

It wilted.

Mr. Jenner.

It drooped?

Mrs. Paine.

It folded.

Mr. Jenner.

It just folded, and from that you concluded there was nothing in the package?

Mrs. Paine.

That's right.

Mr. Jenner.

In the blanket?

Mrs. Paine.

That's right.

Mr. Jenner.

Is it your recollection that the four string wrappings were still on the blanket?

Mrs. Paine.

That's my recollection.

Mr. Jenner.

And you heard no crinkling of paper or otherwise?

Mrs. Paine.

No; I didn't.

Mr. Jenner.

Now, Mrs. Paine, you testified last week before the Commission that you keep a supply of wrapping paper?

Mrs. Paine.

Yes.

Mr. Jenner.

Where do you normally keep it?

Mrs. Paine.

(At this point the witness, Mrs. Paine, left the area of garage and returned to the kitchen-dining room area.) I keep it as I explained at the Commission hearings, in the bottom drawer of a large secretary desk in the dining area.

Mr. Jenner.

And you have just leaned down and taken a tube of what looks like wrapping paper from that drawer, have you not?

Mrs. Paine.

Yes; I have.

Mr. Jenner.

And, is that the remains of the tube of wrapping paper that you had in your home on November 22, 1963?

Mrs. Paine.

No, this is a new one, similar to the old one.

Mr. Jenner.

Did you purchase it at the same place that you purchased the previous wrapping paper?

Mrs. Paine.

I purchased the rolls at some dime store.

Mr. Jenner.

Mr. Howlett, would you measure that wrapping paper?