Mr. Jenner.

And it is, John Joe, how wide a space?
Agent HOWLETT. One foot five inches.

Mr. Jenner.

It's a powermatic band saw that has an identification plate "Machinery Sales" and the like on it.
The distance from the south edge of the bench to the north edge of the band saw is what, John Joe?
Agent HOWLETT. Two feet eight inches.

Mr. Jenner.

Would you measure off 45 inches on that--we have taken a piece of corrugated box board, measured off 45 inches in length, and I will ask Mrs. Paine to take that piece of corrugated box box and place it in the position which the blanket-wrapped package was.

Mrs. Paine.

That's it.
(At this point the witness, Mrs. Paine, complied with the request of Counsel Jenner.)

Mr. Jenner.

Now, may I describe for the record, Mrs. Paine has placed that 45-inch corrugated box board, in the position she recalls it was when you first saw it, Mrs. Paine?

Mrs. Paine.

No; that's the second time it's where it was on November 22.

Mr. Jenner.

This is where it was on November 22d and one end is how many inches from the base of the band saw, Mr. Howlett?
Agent HOWLETT. It's 8 feet from the base of the band saw.

Mr. Jenner.

Is that correct, Mrs. Paine?

Mrs. Paine.

As I recall--yes.

Mr. Jenner.

And it extends in a northerly direction 45 inches and ends up how many inches north of the south edge of the work bench, Mr. Howlett?
Agent HOWLETT. One foot eight inches.

Mr. Jenner.

And Mrs. Paine has placed that, is that correct, Mrs. Paine?

Mrs. Paine.

Yes; I'm not sure but it wasn't somewhat more to the north. My recollection is not that clear.

Mr. Jenner.

But have you placed it approximately as you can best recall, and that is all we can ask you to do now?

Mrs. Paine.

Yes.

Mr. Jenner.

How many inches is it out from Mr. Howlett, the front of the desk underneath the work bench?
Agent HOWLETT. The center of it is about 3 1/2 inches.

Mr. Jenner.

Don't get the center, because the package was wider than that piece is.

Mrs. Paine.

I'll place it where where the outside edge is--where the outside edge of the package was.
Agent HOWLETT. The inside edge?

Mr. Jenner.

Which do you say is inside?

Mrs. Paine.

Let me take more packages--I'm trying to refresh my memory as to where this was. I do recall standing on it, and whether it was when I stood here or here?

Mr. Jenner.

When she says, "Here," she is standing, are you not, Mrs. Paine, facing north with your hand on the southeast corner of the work bench?

Mrs. Paine.

Yes.

Mr. Jenner.

And you are standing rather near to the work bench?

Mrs. Paine.

I'm trying to recall where I saw it on the 22d, but anyway, that would be the width of the package between those two boards.

Mr. Jenner.

What is the distance from the bottom of the desk underneath the work bench to the nearest edge of the package?
Agent HOWLETT. Four and one-half inches.

Mr. Jenner.

And the distance from the bottom of the desk to the outside edge, or most easterly edge of the package?
Agent HOWLETT. One foot two and one-half inches.

Mr. Jenner.

Now, did I ask you, and I just want to make certain, when was it that you observed the blanket-wrapped package on the floor the second time?

Mrs. Paine.

Well, I recall the package was on the floor on the 22d, and that it was not the first time I had seen it there, but I cannot answer just when I first saw it in that position--I don't recall.