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Warren Commission Hearings: Vol. IX - Page 402« Previous | Next »

(Testimony of Ruth Hyde Paine Resumed)

Mr. Jenner.
16 feet 8 inches long. Now, Mrs. Paine, I'll stand beside you, if I may, and I am facing toward Fifth Street, am I not?
Mrs. PAINE. Yes.
Mr. Jenner.
And we are sitting in the dining room portion of the combination kitchen-dining room?
Mrs. Paine.
Yes.
Mr. Jenner.
Directly in front of us--I am standing right behind you--on the left is a doorway entering into your living room?
Mrs. Paine.
That's right.
Mr. Jenner.
There is a wall between that wall jamb and another door jamb to the right or west?
Mrs. Paine.
Yes.
Mr. Jenner.
And that door opens onto what?
Mrs. Paine.
It goes into the garage.
Mr. Jenner.
Now, John Joe, if you will measure the distance between the outer edge of the door jamb of the living room door and the door jamb of the garage door, however, let's get the outside.
Agent HOWLETT. It would be 1 foot 2 inches from outside jamb to outside jamb.
Mr. Jenner.
So that the space west----
Mrs. Paine.
That's east, I'm sorry.
Mr. Jenner.
The wall spacing and the two door jambs together, separate the two doors and are of the width which has been recited. Now, before I open the door, which you say enters into the garage--by the way, how wide is that?
Agent HOWLETT. It is a 2-foot 8-inch door.
Mr. Jenner.
And how high?
Agent HOWLETT. It is 6 feet 8 1/2 inches and it would actually be classified as a 6-foot 9-inch door.
Mr. Jenner.
Mrs. Paine, is there a light switch on the dining room wall which lights the light in the garage?

Mrs. PAINE. No.
Mr. Jenner.
I see a light switch just immediately to the right of the door jamb of the door leading into the garage; what is that switch for?
Mrs. Paine.
It lights the light in the dining area.
Mr. Jenner.
And on one of the photographs taken by the FBI, that light switch appeared, did it not?
Mrs. Paine.
I would expect so.
Mr. Jenner.
Do you recall that it did?
Mrs. Paine.
I don't specifically recall--I recall the shot which included that area.
Mr. Jenner.
That light switch, then, John Joe, let us locate it.
Agent HOWLETT. It is 4 feet 6 inches from the floor.
Mr. Jenner.
It is 4 feet 6 inches from the floor and how many inches to the center of the light switch?
Agent HOWLETT. It is actually about 6 3/4 inches to the center of the light switch.
Mrs. Paine.
My best recollection is that I did see that switch in the FBI photograph.
Mr. Jenner.
Mrs. Paine, when we arrived, what was the condition of the garage floor as to whether it was opened or closed? That is, the full door facing onto Fifth Street?
Mrs. Paine.
The outside garage door--the large one?
Mr. Jenner.
Yes.
Mrs. Paine.
It is closed and has been since you arrived.
Mr. Jenner.
And the door that is leading into the garage?
Mrs. Paine.
Is likewise closed and has been since you arrived.
Mr. Jenner.
None of us has been in there, including yourself, since I arrived?
Mrs. Paine.
That's right.
Mr. Jenner.
Now, I'm going to open the door and observe that first there is a screen door on the other side of the wall, is there not?
Mrs. Paine.
Yes.
Mr. Jenner.
Facing the wooden garage door that I have just opened. Now,
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