Mr. Jenner.

you had with her on March 9, was anything said about magazine articles let us say--did you discuss the Life article with her?

Mrs. Paine.

We discussed the recent Time cover issue, on which Marina appeared.

Mr. Jenner.

Oh, I see. What was said on that score?

Mrs. Paine.

She thought it was misleading.

Mr. Jenner.

That the article itself was misleading?

Mrs. Paine.

Further, she thought it was unkind to her.

Mr. Jenner.

Unkind in the sense that it was inaccurately unkind or that some things were recounted she thought ought not to have been recounted?

Mrs. Paine.

Inaccurately unkind. And she said something to the effect of judging that the American people or at least portions of the press would have to look that way upon the wife of an accused assassin. With which I disagreed.

Mr. Jenner.

Well, what did you say?

Mrs. Paine.

I said I thought that was Time Magazine in particular, and had nothing to do with the views of the populace in general, I said I thought that was better reflected by the letters that she had gotten from a great many thoughtful and concerned people who had written to her of their sympathy and support.

Mr. Jenner.

Did she respond to that comment on your part?

Mrs. Paine.

I don't recall any particular thing she said.

Mr. Jenner.

Did she evidence any feeling or reaction in your meeting on March 9 to the generosity of Americans who had made these contributions voluntarily?

Mrs. Paine.

Yes; she did, particularly in response to a comment I made.

Mr. Jenner.

Tell us that.

Mrs. Paine.

We had been talking about the lawyer and business manager whom she is trying to fire.

Mr. Jenner.

That is Mr. Thorne and Mr. Martin?

Mrs. Paine.

Yes; and I said she has seen the range of kind of people in America--one side the many generous people who sent her thoughtful notes and small checks to help her in her financial difficulty, and on the other side the wolves who wanted to gain money from this situation for themselves. And she concurred in that.

Mr. Jenner.

She was aware of that distinction?
Did she indicate an awareness of that?

Mrs. Paine.

She thought that was an apt description; yes. I felt that she thought that.

Mr. Jenner.

Now, have you told us everything you can recall about Lee Oswald's ability to drive an automobile and operate an automobile, and your efforts to improve that driving capacity, and his efforts to obtain a driver's license? Is there anything at all now that you can recall that you have not told us?

Mrs. Paine.

There isn't anything at all.

Mr. Jenner.

Was there any conversation any time with respect to Lee Oswald himself returning to Russia, as distinguished from Marina being returned to Russia?

Mrs. Paine.

There was no conversation of any sort nor any implication of that to me at any time.

Mr. Jenner.

Was there any discussion at any time on the subject of his desiring to obtain or having obtained a passport to Russia in the summer of 1963 or any other time?

Mrs. Paine.

There was no discussion of this at any time in my presence.

Mr. Jenner.

And were you aware at any time prior to November 23, 1963, that he had obtained or had applied for a passport?

Mrs. PAINE. No; and I wasn't aware until later, in fact.

Mr. Jenner.

Have you told us everything now on the subject of Lee Oswald's efforts with respect to Marina returning to Russia?

Mrs. Paine.

All that I recall.

Mr. Jenner.

Have you told us everything that you can recall respecting President Kennedy and Mrs. Kennedy and any comments or observations on