Mrs. Paine.

followed by an entry on the 21st, "Checked TB test" and at that time it was clearly negative. She did not have tuberculosis.
In the same connection, there is an entry on the 18th of November, "1 o'clock TB children's clinic", abbreviation of children's, and I would judge we didn't go all of those times. One of those probably was changed.

Mr. Jenner.

Do you recall that it was but one TB examination visit?

Mrs. Paine.

There were two visits. We went and they scratched the skin to apply the test. Then you go back to have it read. And she also had X-rays taken.

Mr. Jenner.

Could those double entries indicate that?

Mrs. Paine.

Well, there were three entries. She only went twice.

Mr. Jenner.

I see. Is it possible you might have gone three times?

Mrs. Paine.

It is possible.

Mr. Jenner.

All right.
Have you identified all three entries now?

Mrs. Paine.

I have.
There is an entry on the 20th of November, "Marina 10 a.m. dental clinic" which is the second dental clinic reference.
There is an entry on the 22d of November "9:15 a.m, Lynn Lollar."

Mr. Jenner.

How do you spell Lynn?

Mrs. Paine.

L-y-n-n, which refers to a dental appointment for my daughter to which I have testified. There is also in pencil----

Mr. Jenner.

Its significance is that it took you out of the home.

Mrs. Paine.

That is its significance, yes. That is the only reason it is related. There is also a penciled note at the bottom of the month that says, "Planned Parent," arrow up, arrow down, meaning this week or next visit the Planned Parenthood Clinic, with Marina, for Marina. This brings us to December.

Mr. Jenner.

Excuse me, that elicits a little curiosity on my part.

Mrs. Paine.

Yes.

Mr. Jenner.

Or interest, rather, not just bare curiosity, pertinent curiosity, should I put it that way. What was the purpose of that visit? I am acquainted with planned parenthood society. What was the purpose of the visit? Was she concerned about having more children?

Mrs. Paine.

That is exactly it.

Mr. Jenner.

Would you relate that and your conversations with her on that score?

Mrs. Paine.

Yes. I might go back and say that in March when she first mentioned to me she was expecting a child and we talked about birth control at that time I also said in March that I would be glad to go with her after the birth of the baby to the Planned. Parenthood Clinic to get advice and necessary help, so that she could prevent further conceptions if she wished to.

Mr. Jenner.

Was she concerned about the ability, for example, I am just casting about for a reason to stimulate your recollection, the ability of Lee to support a family of additional children, a larger family?

Mrs. Paine.

I recall her commenting, and this most likely in the fall, that Lee had said to her, have as many children as she wanted, but her own feeling was that it is difficult to raise two, and especially as they didn't have a great deal of money, that two would be a good size family. We also discussed the differing attitudes between Americans and Russians on what is a large family. Two is considered quite a large family, two or three in Russia, where both parents normally work, and it is difficult to support a very large family.

Mr. Jenner.

And did you keep the appointment with Planned Parenthood?

Mr. Paine.

No.

Mr. Jenner.

Did you ever attend with her a Planned Parenthood meeting or session, visit?

Mr. Paine.

Her husband was killed before it was time to go.

Mr. Jenner.

That is, Lee Oswald was?

Mrs. Paine.

One had to wait until at least 6 weeks after the birth of the baby before going, or 5 or 6 weeks.