Mr. Jenner.

Do you have any impression at all or any knowledge, if you have knowledge, of his impressions of you and of your husband?

Mrs. Paine.

No; I have no knowledge of his impressions of me or my husband.

Mr. Jenner.

And do you have any impressions apart from knowledge?

Mrs. Paine.

No; I have some impressions about what Mr. Thorne and Mr. Martin are.

Mr. Jenner.

What are they? Who are the two men you mentioned--Mr. Martin?

Mrs. Paine.

Mr. Martin acted as business advisor for Marina and she lived at his home for some time after the assassination.

Mr. Jenner.

Did you have some contact with him?

Mrs. Paine.

I met him on the 21st of December at his home, came to the door and he recognized and asked me in. I don't know I had met him before because I didn't know he had been one of the men who had come with Robert to pick up the things for Marina, but he said he had been on that occasion.
(Brief recess.)

Mr. Jenner.

We were talking about Mr. Martin. Go ahead.

Mrs. Paine.

We had a short but fairly cordial talk and I left with him a package of letters that had come to my address but were really for Marina, containing notes and checks of donations.

Mr. Jenner.

How did you become aware of what the contents of those were?

Mrs. Paine.

They were addressed to me in my name, so that I opened them and then these were enclosing a check asking me to deliver it to Marina, this sort of thing.
And also brought, I can't remember, some items, things I found in the house that belonged to her very probably that we hadn't noticed when Robert had come to get the remaining items.
From a call to the Secret Service headquarters in Dallas I had gained the impression that I shouldn't try to see Marina Oswald at that time, and while I was under the impression that she was at Mr. Martin's home it was not my particular intention to see her.
I wanted to meet him if I could and learn anything that would give me some more impression of how things were going for her at that time, and with this small collection of donations for her that I was taking, I wrote a short note to her, a Christmas greeting, and returned home.
I came--perhaps I should interrupt here.
Talking about my contact with Mr. Martin and Mr. Thorne is really best done in connection with the letters I wrote to Marina, and these are--since the assassination, and these are in Irving. It might be better to do the whole thing as part of the deposition there.

Mr. Jenner.

When I come to Irving this coming week?

Mrs. Paine.

Yes.

Mr. Jenner.

What feeling do you have as to the reason why, if you have any at all, there appears to have been this sudden, if it is sudden, at least lack of contact between you and Marina commencing with the last time you saw her some 10 days or 2 weeks ago? When was that?

Mrs. Paine.

The morning of the 23d of November.

Mr. Jenner.

And you have had no contact with or from her from the 23d to some 10 days or 2 weeks ago, is that correct?

Mrs. Paine.

You recall I said that I had talked with her by phone the evening of the 23d and then again around noon of the 24th.

Mr. Jenner.

Yes.

Mrs. Paine.

Then there was one call from her to me, telephone call from the motel where she was staying for a couple of weeks after the assassination. It was brief, but she expressed her gratitude to me.

Mr. Jenner.

Her gratitude for what?

Mrs. Paine.

For things that I had done, for having had her at my home. I said, either said or she asked that Michael was staying at my home now, and she said, "Well, maybe something good can come of even this terrible thing." I said that I was writing an article with a fellow for Look Magazine.

Mr. Jenner.

And that is the article we put in evidence yesterday?

Mrs. Paine.

Yes; and she expressed her feeling that that was a good thing,