Mrs. Ray.

Yes; Leningrad---street Maxim Gorky Street. That's on Maxim Gorky Street; that's college.

Mr. Liebeler.

When were you there in Leningrad studying, what year, what years?

Mrs. Ray.

You mean when?

Mr. Liebeler.

Yes.

Mrs. Ray.

See, what happen I study and then I have a permission, not permission. I have to go and work in Siberia, Irkutsk and before I go this far--- that is very far from my home, I have 2--months vacation and I went home. From first I go to Irkutsk; then from there I coming home in summertime, in June. My brother supposed to come home from flying school to get married and I have 2 months after finish college. You have 2-months vacation; government paying you go back home.

Mr. Liebeler.

To Stalingrad?

Mrs. Ray.

Yes; take me 13 day to go home. When I coming home I staying there just few day and my brother coming and war started and after war started, I wrote letter to this government place where you have to write that you like to stay at home not to go back Since war started that I like to staying at home with my mother, not to go back in Siberia, and that's where I stay. That's how come.

Mr. Liebeler.

You were there when the Germans arrived in Stalingrad?

Mrs. Ray.

Yes; when Germans come there.

Mr. Liebeler.

So, you would have been studying at college in Leningrad from about 1937, is that right, to 1941?

Mrs. Ray.

In 1941 when I coming home and just about 4 years.

Mr. Liebeler.

So, it would have been about 1937 or 1938 that you started at the university in Leningrad?

Mrs. Ray.

Well, wait minute, 1938, 1939, 1940, 1941; see, 3 1/2 year and they constantly, every second year they send you some place, you know, practice.

Mr. Liebeler.

So, the time you were in Siberia was part of a practice program in connection with your college?

Mrs. Ray.

No; at this time that's my job. That's where I have to go.

Mr. Liebeler.

Did you actually go from Leningrad to Siberia to start work?

Mrs. Ray.

Yes; I went; I been once before on practice job then I come back and then they assign me to Siberia.

Mr. Liebeler.

And, you actually went to Siberia before you came to Stalingrad?

Mrs. Ray.

Yes.

Mr. Liebeler.

How long did you stay in Siberia before you came back to Leningrad?

Mrs. Ray.

This time I did not stay long. I had this plant they have on ground.

Mr. Liebeler.

Salt processing?

Mrs. Ray.

Yes; I have 2-months vacation and I told them that I did like to go back home. You know they let you do these things; you have to admit it and then go back and have us vacation and that's how come I coming home.

Mr. Liebeler.

So, you were not in Siberia very long at all when you went there the first time?

Mrs. Ray.

No; but I been to Siberia before on practice.

Mr. Liebeler.

. Let's go back to the conversation that you were having with Mr. Bouhe about possibility that Oswald might have been sent here by the Russians for some purpose, that the Russians had devised for him or asked him to do it.

Mrs. Ray.

Yes.

Mr. Liebeler.

Tell us as best you can recall what the conversation was?

Mrs. Ray.

Well, seems to be everybody that hasn't just--first I talk with George but then everybody just starting wondering, you know, said why they taken him back; said that's funny, they should not taken him back, never can tell what is going happen. George---one said he don't have any guts to do anything, not any kind--he is just man that is silly. We just decided on this party that he just isn't crazy but--I don't know how to explain.

Mr. Liebeler.

Mental case?