Mr. Jenner.

Go ahead.

Mr. Paine.

I recall that I was driving and Lee went into this main post office.

Mr. Jenner.

Where? In Dallas?

Mr. Paine.

In Dallas, and the only time I can think it could have been was that day.

Mr. Jenner.

Did he come out with any mail?

Mr. Paine.

Magazines, I think.

Mr. Jenner.

Were you able to observe what those magazines were?

Mrs. Paine.

No; I don't recall.

Mr. Jenner.

Did he ever speak of his life as a youth and a young man?
Mrs. PAINE, No.

Mr. Jenner.

Or his experiences in the service?

Mrs. Paine.

No.

Mr. Jenner.

Did you know or were you aware that he had been in the service?

Mrs. Paine.

His two large duffels which I saw a number of times said Marine Corps on them.

Mr. Jenner.

Was there any discussion of the fact that he had been in the Marines?

Mrs. Paine.

I think it had been mentioned. I don't specifically recall.

Mr. Jenner.

But just in passing, not in the sense of his relating any of his experiences in the Marines?

Mrs. Paine.

No; I do recall one occasion in late October or early November when Marina said to me in the morning that the two of them had had a long and very pleasant conversation. Lee related things about his past life, for instance his having been in Japan.

Mr. Jenner.

Did she elaborate?

Mrs. Paine.

No.

Mr. Jenner.

Just talked in terms of conclusion, that is, that he had related these events to her and they had talked about it for some time?

Mrs. Paine.

The point of her telling me of this was that this was unusual. He didn't usually reminisce and converse in this way.

Mr. Jenner.

Have you had a contact with or she with you, a Mrs. Shirley Martin?

Mrs. Paine.

Mrs. Shirley Martin came to visit me at my home, accompanied by her four children, and dog, some time in January-February, I don't know just when.

Mr. Jenner.

Late January or early February?

Mrs. Paine.

I would guess so.

Mr. Jenner.

Of this year?

Mrs. Paine.

Of 1964; yes.

Mr. Jenner.

Would you please relate that incident to us?

Mrs. Paine.

She telephoned to ask if she could come out.

Mr. Jenner.

Had you known her?

Mrs. Paine.

I had not known her. I had heard her name from the New York Times correspondent in Dallas, who said he had received a letter from her.

Mr. Jenner.

All right; proceed.

Mrs. Paine.

She came out, told me that she had been in Dallas going over the route which Lee Oswald is supposed to have taken from the School Book Depository to his rooming house, and thence to the place where he was arrested, and she was in a hurry at that point to get back to suburban Tulsa, Okla., but wanted to ask me a few questions, and I answered whatever she wanted to know.

Mr. Jenner.

Do you recall what her questions were?

Mrs. Paine.

I don't specifically recall; no.

Mr. Jenner.

Have you had any correspondence with Mrs. Martin

Mrs. Paine.

I have answered one of her letters by writing in the margin the answers to the questions that letter posed, and sending the whole thing back to her.

Mr. Jenner.

So that you do not have a copy of any correspondence with Mrs. Martin?