Mr. Jenner.

How would you describe your family from the standpoint of their social standing or their financial standing? Were they people of modest means?

Mrs. Paine.

Yes. My family was middle income who spent rather more money on education and good medical care than most people in our income.

Mr. Jenner.

And they were modest in their tastes, I gather this, frankly, from reading the correspondence between your parents and yourself. I mean in their material tastes.

Mrs. Paine.

Oh, yes; and certainly the means were modest.

Mr. Jenner.

I gather from reading some of the letters and some of the reports of interviews with others, and may I say to you, Mrs. Paine, that the people with whom you have been in contact over the years think very well of you, and particularly your activities in connection with the Friends and your teaching and recreation, would you say that the pattern of your life has been one of seeking to help others and of the giving of yourself to others in that respect?

Mrs. Paine.

Yes; I think that is a fair statement.

Mr. Jenner.

Would you be good enough, if I am not pressing you too much, to indicate what your philosophy of life is in that general connection?

Mrs. Paine.

I believe in doing as the soul prompts, and proceeding to help or offer help if the desire to do so comes from within me. It is not an ideology that I am following here, but a desire to live the best possible life I can, and to always seek to understand what that best life is.

Mr. Jenner.

Have you finished?

Mrs. Paine.

I have a lot of thoughts about the problems of helping anyone, and about the possibility of self-deception or false pride that can enter, if you help someone because you think you should or from something outside an inner feeling that this is what you want to do. But I don't think I have discuss it more fully than that.

Mr. Jenner.

Return a moment to your conference with Mr. Hosty, on the first of November 1963. You have had time to search your own mind as to whether it occurred actually on the first of November, and what time of the day it was Marina testified, and this is for the purpose of refreshing your recollection if it does--I will read it back a little bit, she was shown Lee's diary and the entry to which we called your attention yesterday in that diary. She was asked, "Did you report to your husband the fact of this visit November 1 with the FBI agent?"
She responded: "I didn't report it to him at once, but as soon as he came for a weekend I told him about it."
Then she added voluntarily: "By the way, on that day he was due to arrive--that is November 1.
Mr. Rankin said: "That is on November 1?"
She said: "Yes."
She said, "Lee comes off work at 5:30, comes from work at 5:30. They left at 5 o'clock," meaning the agents, "and we told them if they wanted they could wait and Lee would be here soon, but they didn't want to wait."
Does that refresh your recollection in that connection?

Mrs. Paine.

It may certainly have happened that way. My recollection stands as I told it yesterday.

Mr. Jenner.

That it was more toward the middle of the afternoon?

Mrs. Paine.

Yes, 3:00 or 3:30.

Mr. Jenner.

And did you advise them, or do you have a recollection of having advised them that he was expected later that day for the weekend?

Mrs. Paine.

I only recall that I said he came on weekends or would be available to be seen here at my home, in other words, on weekends.

Mr. Jenner.

She also has a recollection that at this particular visit there was only one agent rather than two.

Mrs. Paine.

That is my recollection, also.

Mr. Jenner.

That is your recollection?

Mrs. Paine.

Yes; it is.

Mr. Jenner.

And that was Mr. Hosty?

Mrs. Paine.

That is right.

Mr. Jenner.

It could have been, Mrs. Paine, but your recollection doesn't