we got there, and we left the baby with the friend and then we took them to the party, and then we went back to the friend, picked up the baby. It was midnight or whatever it was, and took them back.

Mr. Jenner.

Earlier in raising this Christmas party matter with you, Mrs. De Mohrenschildt, I stated that it was in December of 1963. That was a slip of the tongue, and it was in December of 1962, because in December of 1963 you were in Haiti.
Mrs. DE MOHRENSCHILDT. It was after this.

Mr. Jenner.

Of course, it couldn't be December of 1963.
Mrs. DE MOHRENSCHILDT. He was dead already.

Mr. Jenner.

By that time, he was not alive. You took the Oswalds home that evening?
Mrs. DE MOHRENSCHILDT. I believe we did. We just had to because we had to go pick up the baby. The baby was crying all evening. That poor woman was up with her all the time. It was just impossible, that baby was so spoiled, all the time with her, with her mother, or with Lee, because so few people came to see them. They lived like mice, you know. That is why we were so sorry for them.
I wanted for them to meet American couples to get out of it. We tried to get Marina friendly with George's daughter because she had a little boy, too.

Mr. Jenner.

With whose daughter?
Mrs. DE MOHRENSCHILDT. With George's daughter.

Mr. Jenner.

Alexandra?
Mrs. DE MOHRENSCHILDT. Yes; but Alexandra couldn't understand her. She thought it was horrible the way she treats that baby. It is true she doesn't know how to raise the baby. Alexandra told me she was lazy, also, and she wasn't clean, and things like that.
Now I remember how come it was that she wasn't clean. Alexandra was complaining about her. So Alexandra--it didn't hit off exactly with Alexandra, but it was very nice. Her husband went to visit them after, and I think they helped them to move, even.

Mr. Jenner.

Gary Taylor?
Mrs. DE MOHRENSCHILDT. Yes; Gary is insignificant but a good soul, a good boy, you know. He is nothing at all.

Mr. Jenner.

You mean he is not a man of attainment?
Mrs. DE MOHRENSCHILDT. Yes; but he is a good soul.. He is really good, so I could never be very angry for what happened. It was just a child's prank that he ran off so early and got married. In fact, I was sorry for him because I knew he is not going to be happy, not to start with. I knew he was not going to be. I believe kids helped them quite some and maybe the kids consoled them after.

Mr. Jenner.

Was anything ever said by Marina or your husband that she sought to have Oswald leave Russia and come to the United States?
Mrs. DE MOHRENSCHILDT. I don't think so. It is just impressions we had.

Mr. Jenner.

Now, was there any discussion at any time, or did anything come to your attention that Lee Oswald sought to have Marina return to Russia?
Mrs. DE MOHRENSCHILDT. None at all.

Mr. Jenner.

That is entirely new to you?
Mrs. DE MOHRENSCHILDT. Absolutely new. Was it such a thing? I shouldn't ask you any questions. I am sorry, because I am so curious about the whole thing, myself. In fact, we learned from press 10 times more than we ever knew about them.

Mr. Jenner.

You may have gotten a lot of misinformation from the press, as well.
Mrs. DE MOHRENSCHILDT. Could be, I don't know.

Mr. Jenner.

Are you aware of your husband's letter to Mrs. Auchincloss, Jacqueline Kennedy's mother?
Mrs. DE MOHRENSCHILDT. Did I what?

Mr. Jenner.

Are you aware of the letter----
Mrs. DE MOHRENSCHILDT. Oh, yes.

Mr. Jenner.

You are?
Mrs. DE MOHRENSCHILDT. Yes.

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