No discussion of that?
Mrs. DE MOHRENSCHILDT. No discussion at all. She just said, we are so short of money, and this crazy lunatic buys a rifle. This is what she told me. And you know what happened after that.

Mr. Jenner.

Please. Tell me everything she said on this occasion.
Mrs. DE MOHRENSCHILDT. I think the most important thing is, that crazy lunatic bought a rifle when we really need money for other things.

Mr. Jenner.

And she also said he took it out in the park and was shooting it.
Mrs. DE MOHRENSCHILDT. Something like that; yes.

Mr. Jenner.

All right. Now, then, what did you do? Go into some other part of the house?
Mrs. DE MOHRENSCHILDT. It wasn't very much. I believe it was only two rooms. And then I returned back, and told George do you know what they have in the closet? I came back to the room, where George and Lee were sitting and talking. I said, do you know what they have in the closet? A rifle. And started to laugh about it. And George, of course, with his sense of humor--Walker was shot at a few days ago, within that time. He said, "Did you take a pot shot at Walker by any chance?" And we started laughing our heads off, big joke, big George's joke. And later on, according to the newspapers, he admitted that he shot at Walker.

Mr. Jenner.

Now, when George made that remark in the presence of Lee Oswald, "Did you take a pot shot at Walker?" Did you notice any change----
Mrs. DE MOHRENSCHILDT. We were not looking for any. I wish I would know.

Mr. Jenner.

Please--I want only your reaction. Your husband has told me his. You noticed nothing?
Mrs. DE MOHRENSCHILDT. I didn't notice anything.

Mr. Jenner.

Were you looking to see whether he had a change of expression?
Mrs. DE MOHRENSCHILDT. No; none at all. It was just a joke.

Mr. Jenner.

As far as you were concerned, it was a joke?
Mrs. DE MOHRENSCHILDT. Sure.

Mr. Jenner.

But you did not look at him to see if he reacted?
Mrs. DE MOHRENSCHILDT. No; I didn't take it seriously enough to look at him.

Mr. Jenner.

You didn't?
Mrs. DE MOHRENSCHILDT. I didn't.

Mr. Jenner.

How long did you remain after that at their home?
Mrs. DE MOHRENSCHILDT. Not very long. I think we went on the terrace. And I don't even remember whether we had a drink, a soft drink, or not. And we left. She got me some roses. They had a big rose tree right by the staircase. And she got me a lot of roses, and we went home. The baby was asleep.

Mr. Jenner.

Did you see the Oswalds on any subsequent occasion?
Mrs. DE MOHRENSCHILDT. No.

Mr. Jenner.

Never saw them?
Mrs. DE MOHRENSCHILDT. I don't remember. I don't think so. What day was Easter, by the way? Do you remember--1963?

Mr. Jenner.

No; I don't.
Mrs. DE MOHRENSCHILDT. Because the 19th of April, we left.

Mr. Jenner.

You left for New York on the 19th of April?
Mrs. DE MOHRENSCHILDT. Nineteenth, from what I recall. I think so.

Mr. Jenner.

I think Easter was late that year, but I am not certain. In any event, it was the day before Easter?
Mrs. DE MOHRENSCHILDT. I believe so; yes. The night before Easter.

Mr. Jenner.

When you left for New York, you were in New York a few weeks, a couple of weeks?
Mrs. DE MOHRENSCHILDT. We spent about 6 weeks between New York, Washington, Philadelphia.

Mr. Jenner.

And you returned to Dallas in May?
Mrs. DE MOHRENSCHILDT. End of May.

Mr. Jenner.

Did you call the Oswalds?

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